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o'dium
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Doombrain wrote:
o'dium wrote:
Doombrain wrote: choose life
I pick life, thats why i enjoy spending half an hour of the box every so often. Amazing, I'm engaged, i have a job, i go out, and yet i still play on the box? damn, i have no life...

At least i dont wear a dress. Sorry DB. :lol:
You said you literally can’t wait for a computer console to come out. Sorry but, choose life.
Your right, i cant wait. I also cant wait to get married, I cant wait to have kids. You know what, i cant wait to take a dump in a few.

Take it for what its worth.
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I can't wait for the weekend to begin.
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Ryoki wrote:I can't wait for the weekend to begin.
Well I’m sorry, you’re going to have to.
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Post by Ryoki »

Well, shit.
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That thing can't be anywhere near affordable... 3 CPU cores at 3.2GHz? Give me a break...
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Shmee wrote:That thing can't be anywhere near affordable... 3 CPU cores at 3.2GHz? Give me a break...
i can afford it.
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Where's the Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD compatibility? (I know they are merging the specs) Are we going to start seeing console games on multiple DVDs? That's just :dork:
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Fender wrote:Where's the Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD compatibility? (I know they are merging the specs) Are we going to start seeing console games on multiple DVDs? That's just :dork:
Only games on xbox right now that ive seen that honestly NEED a dual layer disk, have been the ESPN sports games..

so id assume dual layer will be around for a while..
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Post by Billy Bellend »

wow thats actually quite a decent spec .

so wow a 10 meg cache thats handy i bet
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SOAPboy wrote:Only games on xbox right now that ive seen that honestly NEED a dual layer disk, have been the ESPN sports games..

so id assume dual layer will be around for a while..
Let's take a look at the numbers. Let's assume that texture sizes scale with max resolution, this may not be exactly true, but close enough.
Most Xbox games are now 640x480.
640x480 = 300 K pixels
720x480 (DVD res) = 338 K pixels
856x480 (true 16:9) = 400 K pixels
1280x720 = 900 K pixels
1920x1080 = 2025 K pixels

A single layer DVD is what... 3.6 GB? What's the breakdown between textures, sounds/music, cutscenes, level information and other data? I'm going to guess 50% is textures. Your 1.8 GB textures is now 5.4 GB for 720p games. With other context, that could easily go over the 8.5 GB dual layer capacity. And 1080i games could have about 12 GB of textures. That's more than 1 DVD without any thing else.
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Fender wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:Only games on xbox right now that ive seen that honestly NEED a dual layer disk, have been the ESPN sports games..

so id assume dual layer will be around for a while..
Let's take a look at the numbers. Let's assume that texture sizes scale with max resolution, this may not be exactly true, but close enough.
Most Xbox games are now 640x480.
640x480 = 300 K pixels
720x480 (DVD res) = 338 K pixels
856x480 (true 16:9) = 400 K pixels
1280x720 = 900 K pixels
1920x1080 = 2025 K pixels

A single layer DVD is what... 3.6 GB? What's the breakdown between textures, sounds/music, cutscenes, level information and other data? I'm going to guess 50% is textures. Your 1.8 GB textures is now 5.4 GB for 720p games. With other context, that could easily go over the 8.5 GB dual layer capacity. And 1080i games could have about 12 GB of textures. That's more than 1 DVD without any thing else.
and whats funny, is theres 1080 games that are on single layer dvds..

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Post by saturn »

some nice specs, i'm gonna get one cause it is wifi ready
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The first thing I'm going to do is drill a hole in it and fuck it hard.
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nice

I'll get one
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I find it funny that Fender asked for Blu-Ray... Isn't Blu-Ray a "sony" thing?

Thats like the PS3 having MSN messenger?
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Whatever, they are merging the specs. My point was not the name, it was the lack of more than dual layer DVD media.
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Fender wrote:Whatever, they are merging the specs. My point was not the name, it was the lack of more than dual layer DVD media.
Agreed, and i see your point. With 512meg of memory, and pretty much every game gonna be NEEDING to be normal mapped at least to stay ahead with the rest, your gonna be having lots of higher res textures to play with, oplus high poly models, and that takes a lot of room.

Standard games these days take up about 2.5/3gig i would say and thats with lower quality textures and models than we will be seeing here.

So yeah, only time will tell what disk they use.
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Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD

Doesnt say that it doesnt support 2nd gen DVDs?
Or they could go the 2 DVD way?
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Don Carlos wrote:Support for DVD-video, DVD-Rom, DVD-R/RW, CD-DA, CD-Rom, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 cd, JPEG photo CD

Doesnt say that it doesnt support 2nd gen DVDs?
Or they could go the 2 DVD way?
I guess... 2 DVD's suck... I would rather have some new format. Sony's disk hold 26/27 gig is it? Cant remember?
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Post by Don Carlos »

Sony holds 30 gig but it has a case like UMD discs
where as HD-DVD hold 15 gig but is the same as a normal DVD
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I dont think we will need more than 15 gig on next gen consoles. Not even 10 probably...
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The cases make them seem bulky, ok for UDM's but not big discs
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o'dium wrote:I dont think we will need more than 15 gig on next gen consoles. Not even 10 probably...
lol I can't believe how much space games take up nowadays, excitebike for NES was like 16kb, now games are over 4 gig...
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Post by Don Carlos »

indeed.
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Don Carlos wrote:indeed.
Just imagine, you could have run Nasa in 1960 with
the processing power in your pocket calculator of today!
pocket calculator? lol
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