Lens Flares

[skinNCNmaster]

well funny enough.. im a somebody and i want to use it..

but then.. to you.. im not included as a somebody. to you im a nobody odium. thanks for once again showing yourself to be so smart and sooo much better than me. I tried.. for someone other than myself.. you only tried.. to pyut someone else down and make yourself look big in comparison to them.

and by the way... those shaders above have four stages not ten.. try looking at it next time instead of just glancing at it and prejudging it as worthless mainly because im inolved with it..

odium im not really sure why you come to this forum att all.. you dont play vq3 and you have no heart for doing anything to better the Q3 community. Why do you come here? to post photos about your handhelp game and whine about us people who are here because this site is a resource for quake 3 related editing..

you only post to cut down others.... its a wonder your in the void as the most annoying person on this entire site.

[roughrider]

Relax already, ok. All of you. I would hate to have to lock this thread because of the bitching like little babies. The original thread starter is trying to learn/find something and EVERYBODY needs to STOP messing up his thread. CAPEESH?!

[skinNCNmaster]

thanks for adding to the rough ride there maude array tour! just felt the need to establish your dominance here too eh?

the big bad consequence man came to threaten us all!

what i find funny is that odium began hating me because of my desire to help him with the realism of his level design.. which he was completely not interested in doing.... its a handheld game he says.. realism is not important... lol and now here he is making realilsm the holy grail and fighting for his life to make lense flares impossible.. and not even trying to make a lense flare... to test that possibility.

[o'dium]

Skin, I've said it before but man you have some deep, deep issues... I mean seriously, you can't NOT think the whole world is against you, huh?

Just admit that what you suggested wasn't a flare at all, and that you got it wrong. Simple.

Also, I come here because I design. I work on Quake engine games, as well as handheld. The LM section of the site is for creative talent, its not for pimping Q3 related stuff only. Remember?

what i find funny is that odium began hating me because of my desire to help him with the realism of his level design.. which he was completely not interested in doing.... its a handheld game he says.. realism is not important... lol and now here he is making realilsm the holy grail and fighting for his life to make lense flares impossible.. and not even trying to make a lense flare... to test that possibility.

I... HATE... You? Jesus man, its the fucking INTERNET. I don't even KNOW YOU. As for your comment, you need to understand the differences:

A) I was posting a low polygon game and you offered a point over, to which I declined to use. Thats all. You then went into some massive crying sesh about all of Q3W and its mods are against you.

B) This thread is about asking for a specific THING, something YOU claimed was possible but everybody else knew wasnt. When asked to provide evidence, you made this... THING... And proved yourself wrong. Asking for advice on how to make a specific idea is different to asking for advice on a whole scene.

[skinNCNmaster]

odium.. youve said it before... i have some is shoos... one of them is me being shoo'd by you.. on behalf of others... or mainly because you have a personal grudge against me you cannot let die.

i admit that the teleporter from my current level is not a flare at all.. and was not intended to be a flare. thoug animated.. in game it looks very flare like..

if you have ever seen flares from everywhere.. cartoon flares abstract flares.... odie umph lairs... post modernen expressionist flares..

Oodium.. there is one flare. it is the flare.. no other flare can compare. nothing i can do in any engine or any game ever in this lifetime or the next will eVER be considered a flare. i am full of problems and i need odium to berate me for my pathetic attempts at trying.

odie um the dog argues over flares like religionists fight about god. or psychiatrits fight over their right to shcok people electrically.. lol odie.. you stick your tongue out really far.. stop drooling over everything I do.

i guess im going to HAVe to TRY just so when i do get a pretty flare effect, i can rub the dogs no's in it.

[o'dium]

Personal grudge? I don't hold grudges. I have people I dislike on the forum, but to be fair if I dislike them I go out of my way to not involve myself in any posts/topics they make. I don't think "wow, I hate this guy, let me make a post so he annoys me some more".

You just admitted yourself you were wrong. You were asked to do something, and you did something that was wrong. Can't you see why thats not correct?

Saying something bullshit like "there is one flare and eveyrthing else is wrong because I said so" is just utter nonsnese. Get a grip mate. Its SO FUCKING SIMPLE even a complete and utter idiot could understand. Lets go over the basics:

1) Person asks for helping in making X

2) People tell person that X isn't possible with current limitations, but here is Y instead which works just as good.

3) You come along, suggest we are all wrong.

4) We ask you to prove it.

5) You come back with Z, something not like anything anybody in the thread wants or needs, and admit yourself that its not a flare.

6) People inform you that its not correct, for obvious reason.

7) These people are against you in every way, because they are stoppingyour creativity, and they dont want to try out new ideas. They are against God and baby raptor jesus. You MUST fight with them to the death.

8) Ad infintum.

If you REALLY can't see whats wrong with the above then... I dunno... But I really feel sorry for you man. Nobody wants to stop people being creative, thats 100% NOT what this forum is about. But theres a correct place for it, and this thread isnt it.

[skinNCNmaster]

aha then something wrong is not correct.. how.. perceptive.

1.is feeling sorry for someone right or wrong?
2.is speaking to say what someone else can and cannot see, right or wrong?
3. is telling me i must fight with others right or wrong?


people inform me that i am not correct.. that "I AM" not correct????

so, i am a human, a not correct human. i was made incrrectly and thus being not nice to me, in particular...

is right or wrong?

you may notice that i am not dissing you.. im asking you questions about the way you constantly diss me. I keep questioning why you think its right to disrespect me... yet you fight for things which you call right and wrong.. while behaving against another human being in a destructive personally attacking manner.

is dislike right or wrong.. odie?

did you know.. disliking someone is WRONG?

[o'dium]

I can't even try and decipher your jesus babble anymore... Its hurting my head...

I'm outa here, thats all folks...

[skinNCNmaster]

because "jesus babble" is wrong right?..

anywhere.. topic returns..

been digging through deviantart photos looking for examples of photographic lense flares, closer to the ones our eyes see, (which is different for people who wear contacts or glasses..

this is the closer to true life (for me with glasses) version of a street light lense flare.. which based on the dust on my eye and the particles in the air, close to my retina.. changes drastically with the smallest eye motions.. also if there is only one light in a all dark area, as opposed to a light behind me, or a light off to the side, etc. the combination of light factors makes my pupil dialate.. making everything else darker.. noticing a lense flare, causes everywhere else to darken.
[lvlshot]http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/037/f/8/City_of_blinding_lights_by_haur.jpg[/lvlshot]

its furry.. and very difficult to reproduce in any game engine...

the lense flare afaik, this thread relates to is the "photoshop filter flare" effect.. which is a behind a lense effect.. a multi halo arm axis of variably sizes bubbles which pan an a central axis in relation to viewer motion.. more related to multiple depth view of a light source, where something in the middle ground bends part of the light back through itself

[lvlshot]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/035/4/3/That_Time_by_OldSoul00.jpg[/lvlshot]
admittably a very complex thing..uber high detail....the pinnacle of effort... some part of nature scripted real life lense flares... when somebody spoke out about the unlikeliness of light ever doing anything like that,

[roughrider]

Has gone far enough and the thread is way off what Noruen was intending in the first place.