jump pad problems

Post by **TRINIX** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:34 am

yeah i been a lurker here in the fourms for quite some time, finnaly getting back into quake 3 mapping, but i am having an annoying time with these jump pads i am trying to put in!
as far as i know i am doing this right!

1st: create a trigger bush an give it Trigger_push
2nd: create an Target_location
3rd: connect the 2 using ctrl+k

here is a little screeny...

i think i am doing this right, i even looked on dm17 map an had a look see what entites they used for them an its the same as mine. what am i doing wrong?

Post by **Survivor** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:47 am

you want a target_position, target location is for location in (team) messages

Post by **TRINIX** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:58 am

think i tryed the target_position as well, an still the same problem!

edit : yeah i just tryed that agine with target_position. still get the same problem!!

Post by **Fjoggs** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:31 pm

try info_null or target_push

Post by **TRINIX** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:36 pm

i tryed that info_null after reading the info on trigger_push, still get the same problem...ill try target push now

Post by **TRINIX** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:44 pm

ok tryed the target_push. still dident work...getting really frustraited now. i dont think there is anything to do with gtk 1.4.0?

Post by **4days** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:52 pm

trigger_push and an info_notnull - with the trigger_push targetting the info_notnull.

don't know if it's the best way to go about it but it works.

Post by **Kaz** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:34 pm

You're selecting the two in the wrong order, if you connect them correctly then the line connecting the two should be green, not grey.

Post by **Survivor** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:39 pm

Damn it Kaz. It's always the stuff that comes so natural to us that we overlook it.

Post by **Amphetamine** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:14 pm

Forget ctrl+k

Select your trigger_push, bring up the entity box and add the following key & value:

target
jp1

select your target_push / info_notnull, bring up the entity box and enter the following key and value:

tagetname
jp1

Job done.

Am I the only person on here that finds it quicker to just place the ent, hit n and then type the values, rather than messing around with ctrl+k?

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:30 pm

Yes Amp, you are. :icon25:
But I go through the N window to make my jumppads because I'm weird anyways.

I still think my mapping would speed up if I used ctrl+k

Post by **Fjoggs** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:53 pm

Amphetamine wrote:Am I the only person on here that finds it quicker to just place the ent, hit n and then type the values, rather than messing around with ctrl+k?

selecting them and hit ctrl+k isn't what i'd call 'messing around' but ok :P

Post by **Amphetamine** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:01 pm

Well, not so bad if things are next to each other, it's quick to crtl+k then, but once you get to a point of having to move the view, then I'd drop the 1st ent, then: n target <tab> jp1 <enter> <esc> <esc>. It's quick when you're used to it, honest

Post by **TRINIX** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:16 pm

kaz : yeah i thought there was always a way u had to select them 1st, as always i selected the Trigger_push then info_notnull. same problem.
Amphetamine : yeah i will give your way of doing things even tho i think it takes longer to do it thta way .

Post by **TRINIX** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:27 pm

ok 3 cheers for kat. yeah i was not deselecting the inf0_notnull, an then hitting ctrl+k.

i am a noob

Post by **Kammesennin** » Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:11 pm

typing it in is faster once you've done it enough times... takes half a second. There is room for typos I suppose, but if you've done it enough to be that fast I guess you won't really mess up so much.

Post by **TRINIX** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:44 pm

yeah i know that, but i am up for as little typing as possable

thanks for all the help guys

Post by **TRINIX** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:58 pm

just on a random thought, is it possable to do "random" jump location from 1 jump pad?

Post by **Kaz** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:27 am

I believe if you connect multiple entities to it it will select one at random.

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:28 am

I thought it would launch you to the first position it was connected to and ignore the others?

Post by **TRINIX** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:40 pm

say if the random jump pad locations worked, is it also possable to set it so say if i had 4 possable directions to go off 1 jump pad, could i team bind 2 of them to red team, an 2 to the blue team? just another crazy thought

Post by **Kaz** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:43 am

You might want to search for skore's electronics manual, it'd probably answer alot of your questions and give you some more ideas about what can be done with entities.

Post by **Silicone_Milk** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:45 am

Oh man, Skore had some nice stuff going on.
Great recommendation on the manual Kaz. I completely forgot about it.

Post by **Kaz** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:49 am

I did too until he mentioned "crazy thoughts" in connection with "jump pad" :P

Post by **TRINIX** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:45 am

oo cheers for the kat, ill go have a look into it now!