so this is how depressing this country has gotten.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:48 am

sad...
"FOCUS: HEALTH DEPARTMENT
Schools, clinics squeezed by cuts
Elimination of nurses will leave Buffalo students without medical services... "

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20 ... 023826.asp

this is all because of the cuts and shit state of medicare... war is hell on the poor.

Post by **lars63** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:58 am

I agree its sad I just don't understand why people can't see what they are doing when they keep refusing levies and taxes for our schools.

Look on the birght side Mr. Bush probably has a wonderful plan in the works. You know like the one he has worked up for our retirement fund.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:23 am

yep... "no child left behind ... if you can afford private school"

Post by **Canidae** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:28 am

Americans seem to prefer to spend more money on Chinese electronics and cheap Wal mart products and buy Arab oil rather than spend it on their own health so I don't think they'll care.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:38 am

i just think its amazing that the government is run by pro-life religious crazies that are so into saving unborn children but apparently once you're out of the womb and in elementary school you're fucked... until you're 18, then you can go kill arabs.

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:58 am

lol, sounds like that about sums it up

Post by **Canidae** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:02 am

But then you go to the Arab country and get your ass kicked because they are run by religious crazies who actually teach you to hate and kill Americans as part of the curriculum.
LOL you're fucked no matter what.

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:23 am

"Let them eat war
That's how to ration the poor"

Post by **redfella** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:31 pm

Yea, 1200 bucks back for taxes really sucks.

Post by **R00k** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:31 pm

redfella wrote:Yea, 1200 bucks back for taxes really sucks.

Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.

And you can remember it when you're still working at 75 to pay for your medical expenses, wondering what happened to retiring at 60.

Savor that $300. It was worth it. :icon14:

Post by **PhoeniX** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:35 pm

It's the exact opposite here; we need more nurses and doctors.

Post by **RiffRaff** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:42 pm

Looks like more of a local/state issue. Perhaps you should rail on your local and state governments for their ineffective way they run their government.

How can some communities make it work while others, such as your example, suck at it?

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:46 pm

Bring on private schools! Close all public schools.

Post by **R00k** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:47 pm

RiffRaff wrote:Looks like more of a local/state issue. Perhaps you should rail on your local and state governments for their ineffective way they run their government.

How can some communities make it work while others, such as your example, suck at it?

When you radically change the amount of money states get for certain programs and tell the states to deal with it, you are going to have problems when the state has already budgeted that money and counted on it to be there.

Maybe some states are doing better than others, but none of them are doing great. Most are having serious economic issues, and have been for the past 2 years. It may be their fault what programs they decide to cut to offset their deficits, but it's not their fault that they suddenly don't have the money they were counting on to be there.

Post by **R00k** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:50 pm

Fender wrote:Bring on private schools! Close all public schools.

I used to think that was a good idea. Now it scares the hell out of me.

I think it would create an even bigger and more dramatic class division in the country. People not being able to afford primary school for their kids is not something I like the sound of.

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:03 pm

The public school system is broken. Plain and simple. I'd like to say that poor people would benefit from privitatization because of charity, but I'm not so sure. Regardless, something needs to be done. Let's start by getting rid of teacher unions, or at least implement pay for performance instead of standard pay for every year of service.

Post by **redfella** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:31 pm

R00k wrote:Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.

Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?

Post by **Geebs** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:45 pm

Fender wrote:The public school system is broken. Plain and simple. I'd like to say that poor people would benefit from privitatization because of charity, but I'm not so sure. Regardless, something needs to be done. Let's start by getting rid of teacher unions, or at least implement pay for performance instead of standard pay for every year of service.

Yeah, the management's fucked so let's blame the professionals

Post by **Geebs** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:45 pm

redfella wrote:
R00k wrote:Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.
Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?

Since Kyoto?

Post by **werldhed** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:20 pm

redfella wrote:Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?

Probably when the "fiscally responsible" republicans reduced the money available for anyone who isnt' 1) a millionaire 2) involved with the military, 3) part of their constituency, or 4) flagrantly patriotic.

I guess the only good I can see coming from this is that when the jobless rate skyrockets again and the US markets take another plunge maybe, just maybe Bush supporters will see that obnoxious tax cuts, poor spending, and bonerified wars actually aren't good for the economy.

But I doubt it. Back to the main issue, though, I'm surprised those nurses aren't in unions. Or are most school nurses not?

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:53 pm

Geebs wrote:
redfella wrote: Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?
Since Kyoto?

Aw man...now you gone and made redfella run away.

Post by **Hannibal** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:17 pm

Geebs wrote: Yeah, the management's fucked so let's blame the professionals

Teachers (primary/secondary) are not trained or treated as professionals in the US, which is of course half the problem.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:38 pm

Regarding the topic title...this is how sad your country has become:

http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s ... =Printable

lol

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:39 pm

lol

Sister humpin is ok but don't write anything about a school.

Cause yer a turrerist.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:52 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Regarding the topic title...this is how sad your country has become:

http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s ... =Printable

lol

"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."

sounds like he's highly egimakated.

edit:... a funnier spin on this story is that its in kentucky.... when you drive into kentucky, you see their "welcome to kentucky! where education pays" sign. irony++ :icon26:

so this is how depressing this country has gotten.

so this is how depressing this country has gotten.

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