Serenity * spoilers*

Post by **Iccy** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:54 am

What a huge disapointment. What started off as a great series really crumbled as a movie. The movie was basicly good, it was good action and story, but how can you kill off like half the crew? Kinda makes it obvious they werent looking to bring more series to TV and i dont see how it can last in movies either. Im all for the dynamic nature of it, but if you kill off so many important characters, how can you expect to keep that long time connection with the fans. Especialy in a movie that is relying on grass roots to make its cash.

Im really confused and disapointed at outcome of all this. Firefly is one of the best seis i ever saw and i had high hopes of it coming back or atleast a few more movies, dont have much hope now.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:25 am

wtf you on about?

one crew member died.

get over it already

and i prefer to think of the movie as giving closure to the series.

whedon's expressed the possibility of future movies.

seriously, get over wash - he died a perfect death.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:33 am

man i'm just trying to figure out how you figured half the crew died.

you must've watched a really bad copy and been REALLY REALLY high...

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:58 am

meh, it was only shepherd book and wash who died. the movie was excellent

dunno why you put "spoilers" in the topic title - everyone here has seen it i'm sure

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:06 am

doh forgot about book

Post by **chiQ** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:12 am

http://www.jerrythefrogproductions.com/Serenity.html

Don't need to see the film now! :icon34:

Post by **rgoer** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:08 am

I'd like to see the firefly series revisited--maybe they can bring the Operative character from the film on board as a new character in the same vein as Shepard Book... maybe we'd finally find out something about Book's own past (as an Operative himself?)

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:12 am

perhaps. I could see joss doing a backstory episode that involved the point of view of the operative world.

Book as a young man - maybe he even trained the serenity operative (although that might seem too star warsy - but you know what, fuck it, star wars is, from what i understand, based on the archetypes, so it's the archetypes that joss would be ripping off, not star wars

)

Post by **chiQ** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:12 am

rgoer wrote:...Book's own past (as an Operative himself?)

That was my take too.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:14 am

seremtan wrote:dunno why you put "spoilers" in the topic title - everyone here has seen it i'm sure

nah - you'd be surprised at how few folks have heard of firefly/serenity.

even ppl on this board tend to ignore things posted about - i know i do, for example the man-u vs whatever threads - know squat about the world of football/soccer.

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:57 am

I didn't quite see the point of Wash being killed, story-wise. The only real reason I can think of is that they were planning another movie and the actor didn't want to sign on for that one.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:09 am

Grudge wrote:I didn't quite see the point of Wash being killed, story-wise. The only real reason I can think of is that they were planning another movie and the actor didn't want to sign on for that one.

it may have coincided with external interests, but it could be a valuable part of the story-universe.

first off, it totally made the movie darker - once wash died, it was like a message:

there is no guarantee that there will be a happy ending.

second, it'll be interesting to see how zoe's character handles it in the short and long run.

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:50 am

I haven't seen it, and I'm not going to, nuther.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:12 am

yea i would recommend watching the series first.

give the pilot a shot - you may just be surprised.

Post by **4days** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:30 am

tried watching the first few episodes of the series and couldn't get into it. the whole western in space thing just didn't feel like it worked. haven't gotten into any joss whedon stuff since about 3/4 of the way through buffy.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:34 am

4days wrote:tried watching the first few episodes of the series and couldn't get into it. the whole western in space thing just didn't feel like it worked.

I had the very same problem with the show. I was like 'oh, spacecowboys' and then i couldn't take it seriously at all.

Felt like an akward trick to combine two popular genres into one, or something.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:34 am

4days wrote:tried watching the first few episodes of the series and couldn't get into it. the whole western in space thing just didn't feel like it worked. haven't gotten into any joss whedon stuff since about 3/4 of the way through buffy.

you watch the pilot?

also, you have to pay really close attention to the scenes and dialogue. This isn't a show that affords weak attention spans.

the western thing put me off too, until i realized it was prejudice holding me back.

Post by **Iccy** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:46 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:wtf you on about?

one crew member died.

get over it already

and i prefer to think of the movie as giving closure to the series.

whedon's expressed the possibility of future movies.

seriously, get over wash - he died a perfect death.

Shepard died, wash died and i thought someone else died but i guess im wrong. There was a 3rd grave at the end though, i just cant remember who it was for.

But still, killing shepherd and wash sucks

Post by **4days** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:52 am

not sure if i watched the pilot, think so - think it was the stereotypical wise, religious-but-with-a-shady-side (tm) old black guy and the "i know it looks like the club from buffy but now it's a spaceship okay" thing that put me off - that and the fact that i kept getting it mixed up with 'six feet under' for some reason.

don't have the time, the memory or the attention span to get into a lot of telly though, which makes me pretty biased.

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:36 pm

Iccy wrote:
[xeno]Julios wrote:wtf you on about?

one crew member died.

get over it already

and i prefer to think of the movie as giving closure to the series.

whedon's expressed the possibility of future movies.

seriously, get over wash - he died a perfect death.
Shepard died, wash died and i thought someone else died but i guess im wrong. There was a 3rd grave at the end though, i just cant remember who it was for.

But still, killing shepherd and wash sucks

the 3rd grave was for mr universe, who wasn't part of their crew

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