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Why make such a big deal about a name?

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http://washingtontimes.com/metro/200511 ... -5977r.htm
House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert has told federal officials that the lighted, decorated tree on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol -- known in recent years as the "Holiday Tree" -- should be renamed the "Capitol Christmas Tree," as it was called until the late 1990s.
The Capitol's senior landscape architect confirmed the name switch yesterday for The Washington Times.
"It was known as the 'Holiday Tree' for several years and just recently was changed back to the 'Capitol Christmas Tree.' This was a directive from the speaker," said Capitol architect Matthew Evans.
"The speaker believes a Christmas tree is a Christmas tree, and it is as simple as that," said Ron Bonjean, spokesman for the Illinois Republican.
This is why I hate the real 'bleeding-heart' liberals. Did anybody ever really care that it was called a Christmas tree? Did they?

I don't remember hearing anyone ever complain about it, but suddenly the most oversensitive of the democrats decided that it offends people to call it a Christmas tree, and changed the name.

WTF is a "holiday" tree? Do other late-December holidays that I'm not aware of also use an evergreen tree covered with lights as a symbol? What else is this tree representing here?
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yanks :(
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Post by prince1000 »

yeah i see no prob w/ xmas tree. it's more symbolic of the DAY rather than christ's supposed bday anymore.

when christianity is not the dominant religion of the US then those in power can put up whatever holidy iconography they wish, so long as it remains within the rights of others. simple really. dont see what the fuss is about.
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No i agree with him. Its not a fucking holiday tree, its a Christmas tree.
If you dont like Christian things, dont live in a prodominantly Christian country!!!

Politically correctness is gash.
Where were you when the West was defeated?
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Post by prince1000 »

unless of course your ancestors were murdered by an xmas tree wielding missionary
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Don Carlos wrote:No i agree with him. Its not a fucking holiday tree, its a Christmas tree.
If you dont like Christian things, dont live in a prodominantly Christian country!!!

Politically correctness is gash.
whoa donny! :icon28:
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Lets call it a Cunty tree then...
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Post by prince1000 »

'the american tree of a day off in december' has a nice ring
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They should go with a Festivus aluminum pole.

"A festivus for the rest of us!"
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"The celebration of a certain person that may or may not be related to a fictional/non fiction event in the past tree" is better...
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Hey! Where the fuck is my Kwanzaa Crack Pipe?
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Post by R00k »

I don't care if they put up a holiday symbol on the White House lawn for every religion that has a holiday around Christmas - but taking the word Christmas out of a purely Christmas symbol to keep others from being offended is ridiculous.

All holidays might offend Jehova's Witnesses, so should we just stop publicly recognizing all holidays?
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Eventually yes as long as the politically correct nazis keep on as they are...
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Post by GONNAFISTYA »

I like it when cities put up hundreds of those trees down the city's main streets.....they burn nicely.
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Why make such a big deal about a name?
Because it's in America... where else? :dork:
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Transient wrote:They should go with a Festivus aluminum pole.
"A festivus for the rest of us!"
loools, nice one.

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Post by Canis »

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!

They're skipping the true agenda. There should be no capitol tree of any sorts. It condones religion...bad, bad, bad!

Nah, seriously I think the government should recognize religions (and the lack thereof) during religious holidays...all of them. Its a fucking christmas tree, just like a menorah is a menorah, and not a "holiday candle thingy". I think government buildings should set up equal displays of all practiced faiths if they are going to do any, but keep them in the context of those faiths. In the christmas display they should call it a christmas tree. In the jewish display they should call it a menorah, and they should just have "nice looking tree with fake snow on it" for athiests.
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foxnews latest diversion from real news is THE ASSAULT ON CHRISTMAS...please n1gga...
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Transient wrote:They should go with a Festivus aluminum pole.

"A festivus for the rest of us!"
That would be ideal, but we haven't progressed to that point yet.
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Post by Canidae »

No one is demading Menorahs be name neutralized.
I've even notice decorations are being deChristianized this year.
The persecution is getting rediculous

THey even are trying to force an UPSIDE DOWN CHRISTMAS TREE ON THE PUBLIC THIS YEAR.
The AntiChrist is coming!

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Transient wrote:They should go with a Festivus aluminum pole.

"A festivus for the rest of us!"
and now, the feats of strength !


btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus :olo:
Festivus Poles are now available for purchase online.
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Freakaloin wrote:foxnews latest diversion from real news is THE ASSAULT ON CHRISTMAS...please n1gga...
Moron alert!!!

Fox News - particularly Gibson - has been chiming on about the "War On Christmas" and "the evil Liberals wanting it removed from public display" for almost a year.

It's almost as funny as the Christian Right saying - in this day and age of Christian fundamentalism within the American power structure and a bible thumping President - that Christianity doesn't have any representation in government. :olo:
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Just to be argue the other side of the fence is it fair to those that live in that country that don't beleive in the christian Christmas? How would you feel if Jew's suddenly felt like decorating an entire city with Hanukah's?

I mean it's fun to have the holiday's you know, it's a time when people spend their time with their families and friends and basicly have a good time and it's meant to be in good spirit, but, as soon as you add a little religion it spoils the goodness of the idea because it's not something offered freely but rather a form of advertising for religion. which is definitely offensive to someone like myself who happens ot be an atheist.
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Post by GONNAFISTYA »

...and an idiot.
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Kracus wrote: How would you feel if Jew's suddenly felt like decorating an entire city with Hanukah's?
lol

yeah hanukahs are a fucking eyesore
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