I watched the towers come down. I saw no evidence of demolitions. WTC7 is a different story.R00k wrote:I don't understand how someone can be open to the idea that WTC7 was pulled, and not be open to the others.Nightshade wrote:I really do try to remain open-minded about all possible theories surrounding 9/11. Take WTC7 for instance, the way it came down IS very suspect in my opinion. So, when someone mentions demolitions, I'm willing to listen. With WTC1 and 2, all I see is people proclaiming their own ignorance.
If there were already explosives placed in WTC7, how would it be impossible for the other two buildings to have them as well? That is what convinces me of the possibility more than anything else. I was originally a little wishy-washy even on the complicity issue, but once I learned that WTC7 had been demolished, well, that just kinda blows the entire story wide open.
And you don't even have to rely on physical evidence or bad videos to conclude WTC7 was pulled - the owner of the building said it was on national television.
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As you said, just watching the buildings fall is not any sort of conclusive proof that there were demolitions. By the same token, it is also not proof that there weren't any.Nightshade wrote:I watched the towers come down. I saw no evidence of demolitions. WTC7 is a different story.R00k wrote:I don't understand how someone can be open to the idea that WTC7 was pulled, and not be open to the others.Nightshade wrote:I really do try to remain open-minded about all possible theories surrounding 9/11. Take WTC7 for instance, the way it came down IS very suspect in my opinion. So, when someone mentions demolitions, I'm willing to listen. With WTC1 and 2, all I see is people proclaiming their own ignorance.
If there were already explosives placed in WTC7, how would it be impossible for the other two buildings to have them as well? That is what convinces me of the possibility more than anything else. I was originally a little wishy-washy even on the complicity issue, but once I learned that WTC7 had been demolished, well, that just kinda blows the entire story wide open.
And you don't even have to rely on physical evidence or bad videos to conclude WTC7 was pulled - the owner of the building said it was on national television.
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Every building I've seen demo'd showed clear evidence of the explosives going off. It's not something you can hide. Not to mention that the majority of the charges go off before the building even budges.
And again the common sense aspect is overlooked. Why, if planes were to be flown into the buildings, creating a huge catastrophe, would someone go to all the risk and trouble of planting demolition charges? Much like Geoof, it makes no sense.
And again the common sense aspect is overlooked. Why, if planes were to be flown into the buildings, creating a huge catastrophe, would someone go to all the risk and trouble of planting demolition charges? Much like Geoof, it makes no sense.
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this is trueFreakaloin wrote:heres the deal...if u think the official 911 story is tru...ur nothing but a moron...questions?...
somewhere my brain is trying to deny something heinous like this can take place in the modern day world though

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Using only explosives to create such a perfect demolition would have been very hard to blame on a terrorist group. The planes were merely for show IMO. I could be wrong...but I just don't see two planes taking out three buildings so quickly, so perfectly.Nightshade wrote:Every building I've seen demo'd showed clear evidence of the explosives going off. It's not something you can hide. Not to mention that the majority of the charges go off before the building even budges.
And again the common sense aspect is overlooked. Why, if planes were to be flown into the buildings, creating a huge catastrophe, would someone go to all the risk and trouble of planting demolition charges? Much like Geoof, it makes no sense.
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http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46563#1102387Most people, for example, don't realize that three steel framed skyscrapers collapsed unexpectedly that day. WTC7 was not hit by an airliner or major debris and only minor fires were seen burning on a few floors, yet it neatly fell at near free fall speeds straight into its own footprint. No steel framed hi-rise building has ever done this before or since, yet the 911 commission has no definitive answer why this happened. Compare the WTC7 fire to a fire in a similarly constructed building in Madrid that burned for 10 hours but didn't fall.
It wouldn't be much of a risk at all if someone came in to haul off all the evidence after the collapse.Nightshade wrote:Every building I've seen demo'd showed clear evidence of the explosives going off. It's not something you can hide. Not to mention that the majority of the charges go off before the building even budges.
And again the common sense aspect is overlooked. Why, if planes were to be flown into the buildings, creating a huge catastrophe, would someone go to all the risk and trouble of planting demolition charges? Much like Geoof, it makes no sense.
edit: For that matter, why would they take the risk to demo building 7?
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[xeno]Julios wrote:http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46563#1102387Most people, for example, don't realize that three steel framed skyscrapers collapsed unexpectedly that day. WTC7 was not hit by an airliner or major debris and only minor fires were seen burning on a few floors, yet it neatly fell at near free fall speeds straight into its own footprint. No steel framed hi-rise building has ever done this before or since, yet the 911 commission has no definitive answer why this happened. Compare the WTC7 fire to a fire in a similarly constructed building in Madrid that burned for 10 hours but didn't fall.
If it wasn't damaged badly enough to fall by itself and yet it fell with controlled demolition exactness at controlled demolition speed, Occam's Razor would lead to the conclusion that it was brought down by controlled demolition, which the controller of the WTC complex, Larry Silverstein, inadvertently stated on a PBS documentary. And if that is the case, how were the explosives set so quickly?
If the "facts" of 9/11 were the plot of a bad "B" movie, viewers would walk out of theaters in disgust. Yet most Americans blithely swallow Bush and Company's version of how things went down, because the alternative is too unthinkable. Please remember that these are the same folks that sold their Iraqi war (that they had wanted since 1997) on known bogus data, and we all know how well that is turning out.
Too many things stink about the "official" explanation of 9/11, and no amount of condescending cries of "Tinfoil Hat!" will make it smell better.
Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.
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posted by Enron Hubbard at 4:15 AM PST on November 11
there are elements of the whole attack
that have been manipulated
but on the whole it is what happened, too many people would have to be involved
you can't control a leak of info on that scale
furthermore, the people that were on the planes called their familiy members
and now they're dead
that have been manipulated
but on the whole it is what happened, too many people would have to be involved
you can't control a leak of info on that scale
furthermore, the people that were on the planes called their familiy members
and now they're dead
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uh..yeah they called their family members from their cell phones...impossible...hate wrote:there are elements of the whole attack
that have been manipulated
but on the whole it is what happened, too many people would have to be involved
you can't control a leak of info on that scale
furthermore, the people that were on the planes called their familiy members
and now they're dead
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If 19 terrorists did it without being caught why couldn't 19 officials?hate wrote:there are elements of the whole attack
that have been manipulated
but on the whole it is what happened, too many people would have to be involved
you can't control a leak of info on that scale
furthermore, the people that were on the planes called their familiy members
and now they're dead