9-11 conspiracy documentary on google vids

[[xeno]Julios]

1 hour long - only seen 20-30 min so far

i'm no expert on 9-11 but there are some interesting fishy things

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ose+change

[[xeno]Julios]

doh. editing post now.

[[xeno]Julios]

man - the evidence is getting pretty damning - the eye witness accounts and firefighter reports about secondary explosions on the lower floors...

[[xeno]Julios]

just finished it - interesting stuff.

[mjrpes]

The US government isn't competent enough to pull something like that off.

[ALLiED]

Made me think though.

[[xeno]Julios]

for those who don't want to watch the whole thing, a helpful post from metafilter:

I'll try to summarize some of the director's points that I could remember:

• Debris found at the Pentagon attack site matches with components in a Tomahawk, but does not match Boeing 737

• Private security footage from surrounding area was confiscated post-attack by the FBI

• The size of the impact hole in the Pentagon matches the size of a cruise missile or plane fuselage, but no wing or tail fin impacts are found on the outside of the building

• Titanium engine parts cannot melt in burning kerosene, yet no titanium components are found in debris

• Firefighters at the WTC heard multiple explosions on low-numbered and basement floors before the towers collapsed

• Shock waves from said explosions apparently knocked out first-floor glass fixtures and marble walls in buildings before the towers collapsed

• Several unscheduled and extraordinary "safety drills" pulled WTC workers out of the buildings some months before 9/11, causing power outages to security and TV monitoring systems

• Multiple eyewitnesses corroborate on witnessing two military planes fly low above the crash site in western Pennsylvania, which is denied by government officials

• Cell phone logs indicate most cell phone calls from flight victims took place at cruising altitude. Ad hoc evidence is presented showing a low success rate (0.6%) for cell phone usage at this altitude.

• Hijacker passport used for identification of perpetrators survives the WTC impact but redundant flight recorders do not in both impacts

Whether there is or is not a conspiracy, I personally agree that the 9/11 Commission was a joke, weakened to the point of inefficacy.

Had it been given any power to do its job, and had it been run by parties who would have the courage to pursue answers, much of this speculation would be disproved from the start. Further, if the government had addressed questions in a truthful and open manner, it would be harder to present speculation as compelling truth.

I'll agree with Metafilter's conspiracy theory that this is probably the work of the GOP and/or Karl Rove and friends. They ultimately benefit from the uncertainty raised in any conspiracy theory, since it distracts people from more important issues like, say, the Vietnam-like situation in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, massive oil profiteering, Halliburton scandals, Plamegate, torture, etc. etc.

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http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/46563#1102356

[mjrpes]

I was watching the video and then, all of a sudden, I heard to good voice of Peter Jennings

R.I.P.

[mjrpes]

Anyone else having horrible problems with the video streaming smoothly?

[[xeno]Julios]

yea in my old version of opera it just stopped halfway.

so loaded it in explorer was fine. Volume dips for about a minute at one point.

[Nightshade]

I am so sick of these fucking crackpots.

[seremtan]

i think alex jones covered this stuff already

trouble with the conspiracy theory is that there would have to be so many people in on the conspiracy the likelihood of a leak somewhere down the line would be very high indeed.

i suspect the truth is more likely to be nearer this: that the bush administration simply did all they could to ensure that the attacks would succeed, but that it was a bunch of other, independent guys who actually carried it out.

[Dave]

i think alex jones covered this stuff already

AOL was trying to censor his site too, remember? Oh yeah, that turned out to be false and he never posted a retraction.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... ensors.htm

[R00k]

Republican Congressman from Pennsylvania believes the 9/11 Commission has proven “to be a disappointment and a failure, especially as it pertains to Able Danger.” Possible explanations for this failure, says Weldon, include “gross incompetence either on the part of the Commissioners or the Commission staff, or both,” or more alarmingly, “a deliberate cover-up that would make the Watergate scandal pale in comparison.”
http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/index.php

TBH, whatever story you subscribe to, I find it a little ridiculous when people say they believe 19 random Arabs could pull off these perfectly executed attacks and successfully penetrate our military defenses, but the most powerful people in the world would never even be able to pull off complicity.

[R00k]

i think alex jones covered this stuff already

AOL was trying to censor his site too, remember? Oh yeah, that turned out to be false and he never posted a retraction.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... ensors.htm

It's pretty hard to take anything Alex Jones says seriously. Anytime I see a news link that points to his site I skip over it.

[Foo]

I find it a little ridiculous when people say they believe 19 random Arabs could pull off these perfectly executed attacks and successfully penetrate our military defenses, but the most powerful people in the world would never even be able to pull off complicity.

Lol, brilliant.

[4days]

I find it a little ridiculous when people say they believe 19 random Arabs could pull off these perfectly executed attacks and successfully penetrate our military defenses, but the most powerful people in the world would never even be able to pull off complicity.

heheh.

that said - before 9/11, american airline security was a couple of fat lasses sat picking their nails next to a unwatched luggage scanner and another fat, half-asleep arsehole in a uniform that looked like you could take his weapon away before the bridge of drool between his chin and his collar broke.

remember thinking that there must be some next level men in black stuff going on in the background, banks of hidden cameras or maybe the other passengers were all spooks. no country with similar standards of living to western europe could be so complacent.

[Foo]

You're arguing the possibility of someone being able to do is as proof that someone specific did it.

[4days]

You're arguing the possibility of someone being able to do is as proof that someone specific did it.

i'm not arguing anything at all, put that pasty little finger back in your pocket.

[Foo]

So where did the phrase 'That said' come into it?

'That said' means 'but'.

Hence leading into a counterpoint.

Basic english, fucking hell.

[plained]

so what are you'll gonna do about this?

rofl

[Freakaloin]

jesus...years old...

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Fucking awsome. Nice to have a well put together movie I can shove down tards throats.

[hate]

allow me to own this thread



with a dose of reality


any other foolios who posts 9/11 conspiracy bullshit


shall be linked to this thread

ty




let's begin...


the lightpole that the plane sheared off




the cabdriver who saw the plane shear the lightpole 10-20 fucking feet above his car as the pole smashed through his windshield




the scattered 'missle' debris

[Freakaloin]

missile? what missile?