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R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:12 pm
Well. A Pentagon employee is going to testify that he destroyed all documents relating to Mohammed Atta, under orders.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_ ... _hijackers
The 9/11 Commission's stance is still that they don't believe the Able Danger group existed - even though the Pentagon has already admitted to it. The Able Danger guy even testified before the 9/11 Commission, saying they had identified Atta as a member of al quaeda 2 years before 9/11. The Comission didn't investigate the reports any further, and omitted it from the final report, saying they weren't credible.
Still don't think the Commission was a politically-driven whitewash created by the Bush administration?
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:27 pm
old...
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 pm
No, not even close.
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:51 pm
read about before today...OLD...
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:53 pm
The fact that it's in the mainstream press today is not old. And that's the point.
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:58 pm
R00k wrote: The fact that it's in the mainstream press today is not old. And that's the point.
its been in the msm for 3 weeks...
Don Carlos
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by Don Carlos » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:59 pm
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: how much can these guys get away with?
lots
Where were you when the West was defeated?
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Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:59 pm
more...
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:33 pm
Freakaloin wrote: R00k wrote: The fact that it's in the mainstream press today is not old. And that's the point.
its been in the msm for 3 weeks...
Did you even bother to read my post or the article? You don't know what you're talking about. :icon27:
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:36 pm
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: how much can these guys get away with?
I keep asking myself the same thing.
It's incredible to me how they coddle the docile, bleating masses here into acceptance, dismissal or just plan amnesia of everything they do.
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:43 pm
R00k wrote: Freakaloin wrote: R00k wrote: The fact that it's in the mainstream press today is not old. And that's the point.
its been in the msm for 3 weeks...
Did you even bother to read my post or the article? You don't know what you're talking about. :icon27:
yeah and this is old news just being confirmed...but ur new to this so i understand...
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:36 pm
Sure the Able Danger team and Atta are old news.
But the fact that a Congressman is using a Pentagon employee as a witness is news.
Don't fuck with me, wifekeepsmyloins. I stay on top of this shit, while you're just searching around for anybody with dropped scraps. The empty can rattles the most, as they say.
Jellus?
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 pm
THATS OLD TOO...READ UP JUNIOR...
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eepberries
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by eepberries » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:54 pm
Please just ban geoff already
edit: lol wtf wordfilter. ban goof pls
Freakaloin
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by Freakaloin » Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:55 pm
u can't ban the truth...
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
eepberries
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by eepberries » Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:00 pm
That's right, but you sure can ban a hermit house-husband who does nothing but post articles that border the line of conspiracy theories from questionable information sites on an internet message board all day.
R00k
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by R00k » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:22 pm
Yea, I'm thinking that part has to be some kind of mistake.
seremtan
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by seremtan » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:51 am
i doubt there's even 2.5TB of docs on jesus, never mind mohammed atta
Foo
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by Foo » Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:47 am
Perhaps includes high res sattelite imagery?
"Maybe you have some bird ideas. Maybe that’s the best you can do."
― Terry A. Davis
R00k
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by R00k » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:35 pm
Hmm, that could make it a possibility I guess. Still seems like way too much though.
seremtan
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by seremtan » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:45 pm
unless they're tiffs the size of mexico
HM-PuFFNSTuFF
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by HM-PuFFNSTuFF » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:27 pm
how about thousands of hours of transcripts of his recorded conversations
also there may be info from when he was trained by the CIA (if he was one of the hijackers to which this applies)
[xeno]Julios
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by [xeno]Julios » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:36 pm
2.5 TB sounds over the top
even if the audio portions of the files were uncompressed wav or whatever, that would be 10 megabytes a minute.
1 terabyte of uncompressed audio would be 100,000 minutes, which is about 70 days of nonstop audio.
Moreover, they seemed to be referring to documents and emails, not audiovisual media.