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Water without... water

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:48 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
> http://exn.ca/video/?video=exn20050209-waterless.asx

Looks pretty cool...


posting sytle (c) Freakaloin

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:54 pm
by Don Carlos
Thats mad!!!

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:55 pm
by Cool Blue
OLD.

Ten years ago there was an infomercial for a car polish. The active ingredient was 'Fomblin A' (might have spelled it wrong). It's a die-electric fluid allowing you to do the same things.

They put all kinds of electronics in tubs of Fomblin to show how mystical it was. rofle.

I always thought it would be cool to use this fuild as a free roaming cooling system in a server/PC system. Just have the entire device submerged with fans to move the fluid around providing the cooling. Meh. :)

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm
by Guest
Yeah I was talking about that about a year ago.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm
by Nightshade
My first concern was with the environmental effects of yet another nasty chemical, but he said it breaks down in five days. Neat stuff.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:00 pm
by Nightshade
Cool Blue wrote:OLD.

Ten years ago there was an infomercial for a car polish. The active ingredient was 'Fomblin A' (might have spelled it wrong). It's a die-electric fluid allowing you to do the same things.

They put all kinds of electronics in tubs of Fomblin to show how mystical it was. rofle.

I always thought it would be cool to use this fuild as a free roaming cooling system in a server/PC system. Just have the entire device submerged with fans to move the fluid around providing the cooling. Meh. :)
I use Fomblin oil in my high-vacuum pumps at work. Never seen it used as a coolant, but the Perfluoroalkylpolyether(PFPE) family is pretty large. We have another chemical here called fluorinert that is a non-aqueous dielectric fluid that would works great for cooling electronics. The problem is that it's rather expensive and nasty.
That's the difference between PFPEs and what's in the video clip.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:03 pm
by Denz
wow that's really cool.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:26 pm
by bitWISE
Denz wrote:wow that's really cool.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:50 pm
by CrinklyArse
some crazy shit

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:51 pm
by StormShadow
$40 a square foot? thats ridiculous...

for small archive rooms, ok.. but i couldnt imagine it being used for an entire museum or library at that cost.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:05 pm
by losCHUNK
imagine that, have a bath with no towels

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:25 pm
by Canis
Awesome! :up:

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:31 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
i'll buy some of that, and use it for water cooling.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:39 pm
by bitWISE
AmIdYfReAk wrote:i'll buy some of that, and use it for water cooling.
It does say that it takes away the heat from a fire...you might be onto something amidy...

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:45 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
Acutally, i am only Saying somethign that has allready been done.. A few times to date.. infact, the most popular one was done on G4Tech TV.. on the *shutter* Screensavers.

they built a computer in a fishtank, add'd this shit ( $80-100USD a GAL i might add ) into the tank, and used a Submerged Pump with a small rad to cool the liquid..


it was actually pritty interesting, the cpu was running pritty cool ( considering all of the thing was being cooled, not just the Die )

anyway :)

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:05 am
by Guest
I could see some useful applications in cooling if it didn't evaporate so fast. I think it's somekind of ketone if I'm not mistaken, or ketone is one of the key ingredients.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:47 am
by Nightshade
It's a perfluorinated ketone, says so just a bit into the clip.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:57 am
by Guest
Didn't watch the clip, can't watch clips at work. :shrug:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:23 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Kracus wrote:Didn't watch the clip, can't watch clips at work. :shrug:
be thankful you can browse the 'net.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:51 am
by MKJ
Kracus wrote:Yeah I was talking about that about a year ago.
you had no idea what you were talking about though, but yea, you were prolly talking about it a year ago :icon14:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:21 am
by Transient
Kracus wrote:I could see some useful applications in cooling if it didn't evaporate so fast. I think it's somekind of ketone if I'm not mistaken, or ketone is one of the key ingredients.
Can't you prevent it from evaporating by sealing it? It would also be ideal to submerge a PC in this to remove the dust problem. :icon14:

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:58 am
by Nightshade
It's hard to eliminate the evaporation. The application I have for fluorinert is sealed fairly well, but it still evaporates. Getting a hermetic seal on a PC case would be rather difficult, and I wouldn't trust something that evaporates as fast as that stuff does.

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:05 pm
by Doombrain
someone get a link to a clip please

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:41 pm
by Transient
Nightshade wrote:It's hard to eliminate the evaporation. The application I have for fluorinert is sealed fairly well, but it still evaporates. Getting a hermetic seal on a PC case would be rather difficult, and I wouldn't trust something that evaporates as fast as that stuff does.
Damn, that sucks. So they have to replace the non-water in the sprinkler system tanks occasionally then, huh? :(

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:44 pm
by Transient
Also, can you drink this stuff? :icon6:

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