Water without... water

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:48 pm

> http://exn.ca/video/?video=exn20050209-waterless.asx

Looks pretty cool...

posting sytle (c) Freakaloin

Post by **Don Carlos** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:54 pm

Thats mad!!!

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:55 pm

OLD.

Ten years ago there was an infomercial for a car polish. The active ingredient was 'Fomblin A' (might have spelled it wrong). It's a die-electric fluid allowing you to do the same things.

They put all kinds of electronics in tubs of Fomblin to show how mystical it was. rofle.

I always thought it would be cool to use this fuild as a free roaming cooling system in a server/PC system. Just have the entire device submerged with fans to move the fluid around providing the cooling. Meh.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm

Yeah I was talking about that about a year ago.

Post by **Nightshade** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:56 pm

My first concern was with the environmental effects of yet another nasty chemical, but he said it breaks down in five days. Neat stuff.

Post by **Nightshade** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:00 pm

Cool Blue wrote:OLD.

Ten years ago there was an infomercial for a car polish. The active ingredient was 'Fomblin A' (might have spelled it wrong). It's a die-electric fluid allowing you to do the same things.

They put all kinds of electronics in tubs of Fomblin to show how mystical it was. rofle.

I always thought it would be cool to use this fuild as a free roaming cooling system in a server/PC system. Just have the entire device submerged with fans to move the fluid around providing the cooling. Meh.

I use Fomblin oil in my high-vacuum pumps at work. Never seen it used as a coolant, but the Perfluoroalkylpolyether(PFPE) family is pretty large. We have another chemical here called fluorinert that is a non-aqueous dielectric fluid that would works great for cooling electronics. The problem is that it's rather expensive and nasty.
That's the difference between PFPEs and what's in the video clip.

Post by **Denz** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:03 pm

wow that's really cool.

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:26 pm

Denz wrote:wow that's really cool.

Post by **CrinklyArse** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 9:50 pm

some crazy shit

Post by **StormShadow** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:51 pm

$40 a square foot? thats ridiculous...

for small archive rooms, ok.. but i couldnt imagine it being used for an entire museum or library at that cost.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:05 pm

imagine that, have a bath with no towels

Post by **Canis** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:25 pm

Awesome!

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:31 pm

i'll buy some of that, and use it for water cooling.

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:39 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i'll buy some of that, and use it for water cooling.

It does say that it takes away the heat from a fire...you might be onto something amidy...

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:45 pm

Acutally, i am only Saying somethign that has allready been done.. A few times to date.. infact, the most popular one was done on G4Tech TV.. on the *shutter* Screensavers.

they built a computer in a fishtank, add'd this shit ( $80-100USD a GAL i might add ) into the tank, and used a Submerged Pump with a small rad to cool the liquid..

it was actually pritty interesting, the cpu was running pritty cool ( considering all of the thing was being cooled, not just the Die )

anyway

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:05 am

I could see some useful applications in cooling if it didn't evaporate so fast. I think it's somekind of ketone if I'm not mistaken, or ketone is one of the key ingredients.

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:47 am

It's a perfluorinated ketone, says so just a bit into the clip.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:57 am

Didn't watch the clip, can't watch clips at work.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:23 am

Kracus wrote:Didn't watch the clip, can't watch clips at work.

be thankful you can browse the 'net.

Post by **MKJ** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:51 am

Kracus wrote:Yeah I was talking about that about a year ago.

you had no idea what you were talking about though, but yea, you were prolly talking about it a year ago :icon14:

Post by **Transient** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:21 am

Kracus wrote:I could see some useful applications in cooling if it didn't evaporate so fast. I think it's somekind of ketone if I'm not mistaken, or ketone is one of the key ingredients.

Can't you prevent it from evaporating by sealing it? It would also be ideal to submerge a PC in this to remove the dust problem. :icon14:

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:58 am

It's hard to eliminate the evaporation. The application I have for fluorinert is sealed fairly well, but it still evaporates. Getting a hermetic seal on a PC case would be rather difficult, and I wouldn't trust something that evaporates as fast as that stuff does.

Post by **Doombrain** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:05 pm

someone get a link to a clip please

Post by **Transient** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:41 pm

Nightshade wrote:It's hard to eliminate the evaporation. The application I have for fluorinert is sealed fairly well, but it still evaporates. Getting a hermetic seal on a PC case would be rather difficult, and I wouldn't trust something that evaporates as fast as that stuff does.

Damn, that sucks. So they have to replace the non-water in the sprinkler system tanks occasionally then, huh?

Post by **Transient** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:44 pm

Also, can you drink this stuff? :icon6:

:icon32: