He had some black people on tonight bitching about reparations... Actually it was one oreo cookie from the NAACP bitching and one black woman saying that the ghetto never had a chance (which I agree with). Actually, I'm not real sure what the woman's agenda was all about. I think he had her on so he could flaunt a black person that 25% agreed with him.
Oh and the poll goes from Strongly Disagree to Disagree to Don't care to Agree to FUCK WHITEY
O'Reilly got one right tonight...
Well, just to play the Devil's advocate... Shouldn't the US Government be held responsible for allowing slavery? Shouldn't we go back further and blame the Europeans? Shouldn't we blame the Africans who operated the other half of the slave trade? Why should there be a statute of limitations on government wrong doing?
Affirmative action and special treatment? We've been down that road (at least partially) and it didn't seem to workKaziganthe wrote:Sure the US government should be held responsible. But instead of reparations, they should repay the black community through constructive funding in education and improving their housing etc.
My questions was what about...not the word.schlockey wrote:You didnt know what reperations were? Ok.
The thought of that just makes me sick, never crossed my mind. TBH I don't even think we should give 'em the money for their shit hole "ghetto"...their lucky we gave 'em that in the first place.
j/k about the later.
I hope you voted for nigga plz with that attitude. You must have edited that in right when I quotedbork[e] wrote:My questions was what about...not the word.schlockey wrote:You didnt know what reperations were? Ok.
The thought of that just makes me sick, never crossed my mind. TBH I don't even think we should give 'em the money for their shit hole "ghetto"...their lucky we gave 'em that in the first place.
j/k about that
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Dave, do you or do you not agree that there is a class/income division between descendants of european immigrants and descendants of african slaves 200 or so years after they've come to America?
If you think its true that there's this division, why do you think there is one? Do you think its fair to the black community? If you do think its fair then *shrug* if you dont think its fair, do you think that a country as wealthy as ours should be trying to do something about it? If yes, what do you think we should do?
I'm not trying to corner you or your views or anything, just trying to get some opinions.
If you think its true that there's this division, why do you think there is one? Do you think its fair to the black community? If you do think its fair then *shrug* if you dont think its fair, do you think that a country as wealthy as ours should be trying to do something about it? If yes, what do you think we should do?
I'm not trying to corner you or your views or anything, just trying to get some opinions.
Nah, we should blame the Nubians who had white slaves for one thousand years.Dave wrote:Well, just to play the Devil's advocate... Shouldn't the US Government be held responsible for allowing slavery? Shouldn't we go back further and blame the Europeans? Shouldn't we blame the Africans who operated the other half of the slave trade? Why should there be a statute of limitations on government wrong doing?
The way I see it, we're still owed six hundred years.
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Well shit do you think an entire race of people that were litteraly slaves will just jump up and all become expert entrepreneurs all of a sudden? I know you're talking to dave but my opinion on the matter is that these things will take a lot of time. possibly thousands of years before things balance out if we simply behave with equality in mind.Chupacabra wrote:Dave, do you or do you not agree that there is a class/income division between descendants of european immigrants and descendants of african slaves 200 or so years after they've come to America?
If you think its true that there's this division, why do you think there is one? Do you think its fair to the black community? If you do think its fair then *shrug* if you dont think its fair, do you think that a country as wealthy as ours should be trying to do something about it? If yes, what do you think we should do?
I'm not trying to corner you or your views or anything, just trying to get some opinions.
Spoken like a true american, i tend to agree with you though.rep wrote:Nah, we should blame the Nubians who had white slaves for one thousand years.Dave wrote:Well, just to play the Devil's advocate... Shouldn't the US Government be held responsible for allowing slavery? Shouldn't we go back further and blame the Europeans? Shouldn't we blame the Africans who operated the other half of the slave trade? Why should there be a statute of limitations on government wrong doing?
The way I see it, we're still owed six hundred years.
Exactly, but since the blacks try to blame all whites, I think it's appropriate to show them their true idiocy.Kracus wrote:I don't think any generation should owe for the previous generations crimes.
It's not like Jim Crow made them pick up the crack pipe. It's not like Jim Crow made them speak like imbeciles. It's not like Jim Crow made them commit crimes.
I laughed like the Jolly Green Giant when that news about Oprah broke a few weeks ago. "They wouldn't let me into the store after they closed! It's racism I say. They said something about problems with North Africans... Racism!"
What a stupid douche.
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Dave wrote:I hope you voted for ***** plz with that attitude. You must have edited that in right when I quotedbork[e] wrote:My questions was what about...not the word.schlockey wrote:You didnt know what reperations were? Ok.
The thought of that just makes me sick, never crossed my mind. TBH I don't even think we should give 'em the money for their shit hole "ghetto"...their lucky we gave 'em that in the first place.
j/k about that
:lub: I actually voted a who?
I don't really feel that way, I think it's fucked up if we pay for something that......you get the idea. I understand what they want, but get the fuck over it already. imo.
Reparations wont work because it's the equivalent to giving a man a fish. But if that guy over there gets a fish, I want a fish too... Where's my fucking fish? It's the Affirmative Action argument.Chupacabra wrote:Dave, do you or do you not agree that there is a class/income division between descendants of european immigrants and descendants of african slaves 200 or so years after they've come to America?
If you think its true that there's this division, why do you think there is one? Do you think its fair to the black community? If you do think its fair then *shrug* if you dont think its fair, do you think that a country as wealthy as ours should be trying to do something about it? If yes, what do you think we should do?
I'm not trying to corner you or your views or anything, just trying to get some opinions.
Giving people money isn't making an investment in the future. It's equivalent to giving a homeless person you know who is going to go by alcohol all the change in your pocket.
Most of the problem really isn't monetary, but since our culture assesses value in dollars and cents, everyone thinks it is. The money is a big problem sure, but it's only a small piece in the overall pie. The problem is that blacks and whites taken as a whole races don't really want to understand each other... Solve that problem and there's the solution.
yeah, eventually, but I bet politics dictated the emancipation reason more than Lincoln's consciousCanidae wrote:The North fought and died in the civil war to free them slaves. They should be grateful for that and chase the specific decendants of Southerers who inherited wealth as a result of slavery and other than that STFU