So how many of you will be going here to get cured...?

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:46 pm

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8234503/

Conservative Christians hold conference to 'cure' gays.

Post by **R00k** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:47 pm

I'm speechless.

Post by **The HavoX** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:50 pm

Homosexuality is a disability.

It cannot be cured.

Post by **Duhard** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:51 pm

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:52 pm

The HavoX wrote:Homosexuality is a disability.

It cannot be cured.

parental guidance suggested

Post by **rep** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:52 pm

I honestly think Casedogg is crazy, and not in the Flava Flav 'cool' crazy way. I mean totally bonkers out of his mind crazy and he doesn't know it.

I also don't mean the Mike Tyson crazy that he'll kill you for looking at him, or the kind of crazy girls got when they saw Elvis.

Looney crazy. Buffalo Bill crazy. "I'd fuck me."

Does that mean he needs cured? If your definition of cure is anyone who is different than we are is obviously diseased therefor they need cured then no. I think those kinds of people need cured.

They also fuel movements like the homosexual explosion of the last thirty years. If they just passed all the laws and made everything even for them, then they wouldn't be on TV in parades and crying on the news about this and that. They'd have no exposure other than normal life. Shows like Will & Grace, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, and others wouldn't be popular because nothing would be shocking... Those are in the same category as blaxploitation films.

Post by **The HavoX** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:54 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:parental guidance suggested

brain not included

Post by **rep** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:58 pm

Duhard wrote:

Common misconception: God cannot hate.

Read the bible. God is documented as hating one thing or another a few times.

Post by **The HavoX** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:59 pm

hey rep...

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:07 pm

Morons. Nothing pisses me off more than idiots like this twisting a good belief system to support their own narrowminded hate.

Post by **rep** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:19 pm

Do you realize I could destroy you by turning around and flexing my latissimus, right, Honushi?

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:25 pm

Tormentius wrote:Morons. Nothing pisses me off more than idiots like this twisting a good belief system to support their own narrowminded hate.

There's no such thing as a good "belief" system.

You are biased from the start and it simply reinforces narrowmindedness.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:26 pm

LoL who would have ever thought I'd agree with GKY.

Post by **The HavoX** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:54 pm

rep wrote:Do you realize I could destroy you by turning around and flexing my latissimus, right, Honushi?

Keep It Real · Post by **Keep It Real** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:55 pm

rep wrote:
Duhard wrote:
Common misconception: God cannot hate.

Read the bible. God is documented as hating one thing or another a few times.

shut up, you sound like such an arrogant gay little computer hacker

no matter what, god loves if you're a christian

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:00 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Tormentius wrote:Morons. Nothing pisses me off more than idiots like this twisting a good belief system to support their own narrowminded hate.
There's no such thing as a good "belief" system.

You are biased from the start and it simply reinforces narrowmindedness.

Yeah...

:icon27:

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:44 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Tormentius wrote:Morons. Nothing pisses me off more than idiots like this twisting a good belief system to support their own narrowminded hate.
There's no such thing as a good "belief" system.

You are biased from the start and it simply reinforces narrowmindedness.

Everyone has belief systems. And everyone assumes, overtly or not, that one belief system is somehow 'better' (or more closely aligned to the natural law) than others.

We both agree that Bush is an idiot. For us to agree on this, musn't it be because we feel he fails miserably at adhering to some set of behaviors, beliefs, whatever? If there is no good belief system, no actual 'moral law', than what makes the morality of a man who haphazardly puts the lives of 100's of thousands at risk to fulfill his own egotistical needs worse than another?

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:49 pm

GKY probably means faith when he speaks of belief systems.

Post by **sliver** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:51 pm

The HavoX wrote:brain not included

we already knew this about you faggot.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:19 am

Massive Quasars wrote:GKY probably means faith when he speaks of belief systems.

Call it faith, call it a belief system - what I was getting at is that almost everyone believes(maybe the not best use of the term) there is some 'moral norm' that we should strive for. If they didn't, their own arguments against anyone else's behavior is completely invalidated. Of course, we could move from here into a discussion on the evolution of morality, the basic ideas that 'moral' behavior can be favored under some circumstances, etc. But that is a very large topic and I don't think one worth entering here. I'm guessing, though, that this would be the source of said 'moral law' for many of you here.

Post by **Duhard** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:21 am

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:34 am

sliver wrote:
The HavoX wrote:brain not included
we already knew this about you faggot.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:42 am

tnf wrote:
Massive Quasars wrote:GKY probably means faith when he speaks of belief systems.
Call it faith, call it a belief system - what I was getting at is that almost everyone believes(maybe the not best use of the term) there is some 'moral norm' that we should strive for. If they didn't, their own arguments against anyone else's behavior is completely invalidated. Of course, we could move from here into a discussion on the evolution of morality, the basic ideas that 'moral' behavior can be favored under some circumstances, etc. But that is a very large topic and I don't think one worth entering here. I'm guessing, though, that this would be the source of said 'moral law' for many of you here.

I don't want to start a discussion.

Beliefs include faith, but belief isn't necessarily faith. Every functioning human holds beliefs, correct, not everyone holds a faith though.

When GKY said "there's no such thing as a good "belief" system", he probably meant there's no such thing as a good faith. That's arguable, I'm just trying to clarify his statement.

Post by **The HavoX** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:47 am

sliver wrote:we already knew this about you faggot.

shut up havoc

Post by **R00k** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:01 am

Massive Quasars wrote:
tnf wrote:
Massive Quasars wrote:GKY probably means faith when he speaks of belief systems.
Call it faith, call it a belief system - what I was getting at is that almost everyone believes(maybe the not best use of the term) there is some 'moral norm' that we should strive for. If they didn't, their own arguments against anyone else's behavior is completely invalidated. Of course, we could move from here into a discussion on the evolution of morality, the basic ideas that 'moral' behavior can be favored under some circumstances, etc. But that is a very large topic and I don't think one worth entering here. I'm guessing, though, that this would be the source of said 'moral law' for many of you here.
I don't want to start a discussion.

Beliefs include faith, but belief isn't necessarily faith. Every functioning human holds beliefs, correct, not everyone holds a faith though.

When GKY said "there's no such thing as a good "belief" system", he probably meant there's no such thing as a good faith. That's arguable, I'm just trying to clarify his statement.

I think the way I would say it is that, it is never good to have faith in a certain belief system.

Nothing wrong with having a belief system, but to think it's infallible and superior to all others will never promote harmony in the human race. It's the antithesis to diversity.