CoD: MW 3

[SoM]

in November

LOL

http://www.hardocp.com/news/2011/01/22/ ... _november/

[o'dium]

From totally new members and the people that didn't leave IW when the shit hit the fan...

Yeah, should be awesome. I mean BLOPS had no bugs and is totally fixed, so yeah, I can't see w... Oh wait...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Mat Linnett]

Have Activision won the legal battle then?
As far as I understood it, the ex-IW guys were claiming that Activision couldn't use the Modern Warfare name without their permission.
If the legal battle is still going on and the ex-IW guys win, Activision land themselves in a massive pile of manure if they go ahead and publish this.

[Mat Linnett]

I didn't personally like the game, but Brutal Legend is also a pretty good example of Activision being dicks.
First they drop it altogether, then EA picks it up and runs with it, then Activision try to sue Double Fine / EA for releasing it.
I really hope they lose this court case, and even better, AFTER they've published MW3, as all the profits will in all likelihood then have to go to West / Zampella, which would be poetic justice.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Activision makes money off of only 3 IPs: Guitar Hero (fading fast in an overly saturated market), WoW (probably around for another 200 years with no real contenders on the horizon) and CoD (I have no idea how this will pan out but consumers are dumb enough to keep this cash cow going for probably another 200 years).

Activision is quite the pack of assholes and deserves failure more than any publisher on the planet because it does not care about the actual games industry. They'd sell landmines if they knew people would buy them from Wal-Mart every year.

[Doombrain]

fuck CoD, not falling for that again.

BC3 all the way.

[o'dium]

Aye, quite enjoyed BC2 online, so much better. Whens the BC3 beta drop?

[Eraser]

Don't forget, we were talking about EA exactly the same way 5 or so years ago.

[brisk]

Yeah, whoever is the biggest publisher automatically gets classed as the evil galactic gaming empire.

Saying that, EA put out much, much better games now. They also take far more risks that Activison, who as GKY said, ensure dominance by COD and WOW. The guitar hero/music games thing seems to be dying fast, thankfully.

As for MW3, it has literally been the same game since the original MW, which from a SP perspective, is something i'll play once and throw away. MP never gripped me in the same way as Q3A or L4D either. The pre-teen whining doesn't help either.

When is the first Respawn game due for release? I fully expect that to be just as dull as the COD series, but at least then they will finally have some proper competition. As long as COD is released every year with no other game capable of attracting the kiddies, then Activision will continue to dominate. BC2 was decent and at least got a foot in. Hopefully BC3 will go a step further and actually be a worthwhile challenger.

[Doombrain]

BC2 was decent and at least got a foot in. Hopefully BC3 will go a step further and actually be a worthwhile challenger.

lol

[GONNAFISTYA]

Yeah, whoever is the biggest publisher automatically gets classed as the evil galactic gaming empire.

I disagree. EA has never stomped on a dev's overall vision. EA's marketing team might have wanted specific things to get an IP "over the top" in terms of market impact, but they've never walked in and said "we're going to do it this way or it's the highway for you". In fact, EA is even MORE accomodating to developer's good ideas now than ever before.

Activision was ALWAYS about buying out successful IPs, taking all the credit and milking them to the point of death. If you need an analogy, think of Microsoft having no ideas of its own, simply buying companies/tech from smarter people, putting their logo on it and calling it "innovation".

[brisk]

BC2 was decent and at least got a foot in. Hopefully BC3 will go a step further and actually be a worthwhile challenger.

lol

Strictly sales wise, not quality. I enjoy BC2.

[brisk]

Yeah, whoever is the biggest publisher automatically gets classed as the evil galactic gaming empire.

I disagree. EA has never stomped on a dev's overall vision. EA's marketing team might have wanted specific things to get an IP "over the top" in terms of market impact, but they've never walked in and said "we're going to do it this way or it's the highway for you". In fact, EA is even MORE accomodating to developer's good ideas now than ever before.

Activision was ALWAYS about buying out successful IPs, taking all the credit and milking them to the point of death. If you need an analogy, think of Microsoft having no ideas of its own, simply buying companies/tech from smarter people, putting their logo on it and calling it "innovation".

Didn't Infinity Ward get formed exactly because the 2015 inc. devs got sick of EAs shit? I don't know the full story so I may be wrong, but I know EA only around 4 or so years ago were the most hated publishing house, exactly because they bought out studios and milked franchises to death. That John Riccitiello guy has done good things for them since he took over however. I couldn't imagine Activision putting out games like Mirrors Edge.

Still, none of them can be really trusted. They're huge companies, out to make money afterall. A solid gaming experience will always be secondary to whatever gets the most cash in, sadly.

[Berserker]

I've lost interest in anything branded Call of Duty or Modern Warfare for quite a while now.
Sort of reminds me of Madden. Basically the same game rehashed every year.

[Eraser]

While Activision are obviously not making themselves popular right now, I'm holding off on the final verdict of the Activision vs Zampella/West thing. The two dudes are regarded as heroes, which is an easy bandwagon to jump on, but I'm not entirely sure they've played things entirely fair themselves though.

Still, even so, I am pretty sure that Activision is the most evil of the two.

[Mat Linnett]

I think GKY's also forgetting "EA Spouse", which can be seen as the turning point in EA's fortunes.
The complaint there was exactly what GKY says EA never did: driving developers into the ground.
brisk is right, and EA can thank John Riccitello for their current image amongst the gaming public.

[GONNAFISTYA]

I do remember the "EA spouse" but that's not what I'm talking about (all companies ass rape their employees from time to time...sometimes for a long time).

I'm talking about EA's more or less "hands off" approach to devs, in terms of creative input. All I'll say is that if I was a studio head, I'd rather work with EA's third party division instead of Activision. And LucasArts can fuck off as well...that's another example of meddling morons who water down IP to the point of shit and treat devs like assembly lines.

Oh...and AFAIK the devs who made Medal Of Honor got sick of 2015's shit, not EA's.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Still, none of them can be really trusted. They're huge companies, out to make money afterall. A solid gaming experience will always be secondary to whatever gets the most cash in, sadly.

Sad but true.

[Mat Linnett]

Well Activision are a lot more nefarious, that's for sure.
I'm hearing rumblings that the Blizzard / Activision "partnership" is now turning out to be less of a partnership, and more a classic Activision exploitation manoeuvre. Initially, Blizzard went into the deal thinking that they were equal partners, but Activision have gradually placed their moles at high positions in the company. You can already see this having an effect with the recent release of Starcraft 2 and the move towards monetisation.

[Doombrain]

Strictly sales wise, not quality. I enjoy BC2.

oh. i love it, it's all i play now. best value for money game ever.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Strictly sales wise, not quality. I enjoy BC2.

oh. i love it, it's all i play now. best value for money game ever.

[Doombrain]

^ someones mad

[GONNAFISTYA]

^ someone talking about money again

[Doombrain]

^ someones got no money

[MKJ]

oi, Spacker's Delight.
there's a forum out there just for the two of you. it's called The Void.