been a long time..

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skinNCNmaster
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been a long time..

Post by skinNCNmaster »

hi guys,

i just put quake and gtk on this computer again after a few years of not modelling
for those of you who dont know me..

a link to some pic from previous years...


anywho

heres my issue, and bear with me im rusty.

ive got everything running seems fine enough.. but i put two of my old maps in the baseq3, pn03 and leafland, added them both to the shaderlist.txt


and for some reason within gtk the shaders do not show up, the textures do.

so im out of date.. shaderlist.txt seems fine, radiant is the latest version, quake is fresh install, never have issues with that, and common shaders etc, show up as functional.. so what am i missing.. wy do my hand made shaders from my old maps not work...?


and aloha folk, good to be back, though not sure if im gonna be making actual maps for q3, i will definately be doing some mapping with gtk... ive got some ideas for deco for a rave and wanted to try constructs in 3d to test my stretch fluo fabric designs..
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obsidian
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Re: been a long time..

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Why hello, welcome back!

What version of GtkRadiant?

Shaders are in baseq3\scripts?

Check shader files for any typos/syntax, these can lead to GtkRadiant not reading the contents of those shaders and any other ones that load in after it.
[size=85][url=http://gtkradiant.com]GtkRadiant[/url] | [url=http://q3map2.robotrenegade.com]Q3Map2[/url] | [url=http://q3map2.robotrenegade.com/docs/shader_manual/]Shader Manual[/url][/size]
skinNCNmaster
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Re: been a long time..

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radiant 1.5

and thanks for the welcome :D

ive extracted the shaders from pak0 and also fromthe two maps, the shaderlist has the two maps shaders listed..

so im at a loss for why
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Re: been a long time..

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lo skin, welcome back to the fold ;)
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Re: been a long time..

Post by Silicone_Milk »

holy fucking shit.

The man who taught me how to map! I remember working on a ctf map project with you involving two giant tree areas for the bases and a cave system with wolf head entrances. You were frustrated because I wasn't understanding t-juncs and the rocks I made were riddled with overlaps and bad t-juncs XD

I was actually running around pn03 last week wondering what happened to you and admiring the shader effects.

I lost leafland though. Not sure what happened to it.

Welcome back dude :)
skinNCNmaster
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Re: been a long time..

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leafland is still help at mapcenter and map raider if yer hankering for them.. im maybe completely missing all my old map files and stuff from having changed computers a couple times and also from reformating and stuff though im sort of thinking tat possibly they exist burnt on a cd somewhere here.. or at a friends house lol/....

i miss that geometry though man them rocks took a long time to work on.. the two giant trees and stuff yeah tat was going to be one super duper example of how to map unique and rough rocky with zero overdraw, insanely big and insanely complicated.

anywho, ut woke up and wondering if i can figure out or get this program fully functional today.. i miss making things in gtk thats for sure.
skinNCNmaster
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um hey guys..

there are a few of my maps i cannot find anywhere.. the gold version of gregypt-ctf1, and well i am sort of wondering if anyone has any old files i might have passed them for review, anything i made from back in the day, much appreciated, map files map files map files lol

and ty foo for the fold to come back to

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shaderlist.txt

// this file lists all the separate shader files
base_button
base_door
base_floor
base_light
base_object
base_support
base_trim
base_wall
common
ctf
eerie
gfx
hell
gothic_block
gothic_button
gothic_door
gothic_floor
gothic_light
gothic_trim
gothic_wall
leafland
liquids
menu
models
organics
pn03
sfx
shaderlab_1337
skin
skies
tim
im noticing now that many of the in game scripts are not showing as outlined either..

gothic_light is a windowfull of textures but no shaders...

hmmm well could it have something to do with that ive got the pak0 internal files plus the secondary extracted/copied scripts folder... the shaderlist.txt was and is not in the pak0 so thats another tidbit of info.. man eye me rusty
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okay yup some reason here why this is not working..

ive extracted then entire contents of the two maps pn03 and leafland into the baseq3 so now theres the appropriate folders and even the leafland map file.. ive opened leafland in gtk and only the textures are displaying, the shaders all come up as broken
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Re: been a long time..

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Can you try another custom level, take some random from Lvl and see what happens?
Q3Map2 2516 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map_2.5.16_win32_x86.zip
Q3Map2 FS_20g -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map2_fs_20g.rar
GtkRadiant 140 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/GtkRadiantSetup-1.4.0-Q3RTCWET.exe
skinNCNmaster
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getting socks new map now
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yep meteof_final added to the shaderlist and the pk3 is in baseq3 and gtk restarted and shaders are not showing for it either
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Hmm, strange. I'm also sure I had a similar error... very long time ago.

So, this is a super clean and patched up Q3, Clean and properly installed radiant 1.5?
Q3Map2 2516 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map_2.5.16_win32_x86.zip
Q3Map2 FS_20g -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map2_fs_20g.rar
GtkRadiant 140 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/GtkRadiantSetup-1.4.0-Q3RTCWET.exe
skinNCNmaster
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yep q3 with the patch, nothing else. havent even tried playing yet, but im sure itll load.. checking... oops well i avent put in a cd key yet.. and actually tossed the install files so ill have to do that.

but yeah the shaders seem mostly to work in gtk, the one from the game, though some are not working.

odd, im sure we can figure this in.
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Re: been a long time..

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Hey Skin, long time no see dude.
I know it's obvious....but which version of GTK are you using? Several versions of 1.5 iirc.
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Re: been a long time..

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v2.0.0 b7.15.10.1591
1.5.0
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Re: been a long time..

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Would it be possible for you to try another GTK? Like 1.4?
Q3Map2 2516 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map_2.5.16_win32_x86.zip
Q3Map2 FS_20g -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map2_fs_20g.rar
GtkRadiant 140 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/GtkRadiantSetup-1.4.0-Q3RTCWET.exe
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Re: been a long time..

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obsidian wrote:Check shader files for any typos/syntax, these can lead to GtkRadiant not reading the contents of those shaders and any other ones that load in after it.
I suspect one of your custom shaders is doing this. It will start loading scripts from the PK3 files, then the separate .shader files, so if you have any sitting around in /scripts, they are loaded last. If one of them has even a syntax error, anything loaded after it will not show up. Count your brackets.
[size=85][url=http://gtkradiant.com]GtkRadiant[/url] | [url=http://q3map2.robotrenegade.com]Q3Map2[/url] | [url=http://q3map2.robotrenegade.com/docs/shader_manual/]Shader Manual[/url][/size]
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skinNCNmaster
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Re: been a long time..

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well the camera window has some buggyness in this version of gtk also.. where can i find older versions? same location i bet.. off to check
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ps any way to get my username changed?
skinNCNmaster
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okay something is odd, ive installed 1.4 and tried something, i dleted all the base_ shaders from the shaderlist.txt and in gtk i chose the dispay shaderlist.txt only and the base_ menu is still there.. this was after closing the app and reopening it, so im confused.. is gtk looking at a shaderlist.txt that is elsewhere? leafland and pno3 and the other still dont show up.. remember im using verified files... so what am i missing?
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Re: been a long time..

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What OS? Vista needs admin privileges to be set or GTK doesn't play nice. Don't have W7, so no idea about that.
skinNCNmaster
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Re: been a long time..

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ohh really? ell help me out.. it is vista...

ive noticed the 1.4 is missing the stuff for patch textures in the surface inspector.. so poof is gone and 1.5 is being reinstalled..

HAHA run as administrator and the shaders work!

silly windows 7.. make me click three ok buttons to do anything and have only one account, an admin one and it still asks me to run as admin.. even though i am...
dONKEY
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Re: been a long time..

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I had similar issues. I just thought about it a few minutes a go, wondered if it was a similar thing.
skinNCNmaster
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Re: been a long time..

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ive installed 1.5 and it does not ave the run as administrator option?!?! hehe grrr.... why is that run as admin is greyed out
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