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Japan vs China
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:15 pm
by Cool Blue
Think they'll go at it?
Oil is becoming pretty hot in demand these days...
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:40 pm
by FlamingTP
pay per view?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:43 pm
by bikkeldesnikkel
don't think japan would stand a chance

, would fucking own to see them fight tho. japan going at it with tons of gadgets and robots and shit, and china with swarms of soldiers!

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:43 pm
by FlamingTP
china wins.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:45 pm
by bikkeldesnikkel
they do have fucking awesome robots. who knows the military might have some crazy shit prepared for this. china n japan always hated eachother. right?
still 1,000,000,000 vs 125,000,000 seems clear to me

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:06 pm
by blood.angel
bikkeldesnikkel wrote:
still 1,000,000,000 vs 125,000,000 seems clear to me

Thats around the same ratio of US troops against iraqi insurgents.
And guess whose winning that one.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:09 pm
by Foo
Roll for H-Bomb, Sucess!
*poom*
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:12 pm
by Cool Blue
bikkeldesnikkel wrote:don't think japan would stand a chance

, would fucking own to see them fight tho. japan going at it with tons of gadgets and robots and shit, and china with swarms of soldiers!

:icon14: :icon28:
:lol:
China can't even get to Taiwan, let alone Japan. They have no amphibious assualt vehicles.
Aside from that, the Chinese military is HUGELY behind in technology compared to Japan who is running almost ALL US military technology. They may have boat loads of Chinamen, but it would soon be boat loads of Chinamen at the bottom of the sea. Japan's subs and destroyers are leagues more capable and dangerous than the Chinese competitors, albiet possible in smaller numbers.
That said... geographics are a huge factor. Japan is small and easy to defend compare to the wide shorelines of China.
Population isn't so much a factor anymore as it used to be. The Iraq war was a prime example of this.
I rarely known fact about the Iraq war of 2003 is that the Iraqi's where using the top off the line Russian tanks (T76s). Laser guided, heavily armored, yadda yadda yadda... The US was using their newest tank, which is I'm sure by now also in the Japanese military (or soon to be), the M1A Abrahms.
The Iraqi's lost 1000 tanks, the US 6. Get that? 1000-6. That's more than just 'owned'.
Add to it all, stealth bombers which would surely be used to bomb strategic Chinese locations at night and the Chinese don't really have a pot to piss in anymore. Their only true strength lies in their Airforce, which is also about to be totally obsolete like their tanks due to the knew stealth fighter jets, the Raptors.
All in all... should make for some good TV.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:50 pm
by Freakaloin
china wins with numbers...see what russia did to germany? oh yeah...moron...
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 6:55 pm
by Foo
Freakaloin wrote:china wins with numbers...see what russia did to germany? oh yeah...moron...
YOUR ARGUMENT IS FLAWLESS. YOU WIN THE PRIZE. THE PRIZE IS.... I SUPPOSE WE DON'T HAVE A PRIZE. TAKE THIS WOODEN SPOON.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:32 pm
by Fjoggs
Freakaloin wrote:china wins with numbers...see what russia did to germany? oh yeah...moron...
snow is cold.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:40 pm
by eepberries
Germany mainly lost ther war becuase Hitler kept fucking things up. The army had great leaders, it's just that Hitler kept getting in their way. Research has shown that germany could have very likely won WW2 if Hitler hadn't been a stuborn idiot.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:42 pm
by Massive Quasars
Japan's labour force is slowly being replaced with robots.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 7:42 pm
by Foo
Hitlers moustache. get it right.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:05 pm
by Nightshade
GODWIN'S RULE. THREAD CLOSED.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:06 pm
by Cool Blue
eepberries wrote:Germany mainly lost ther war becuase Hitler kept fucking things up. The army had great leaders, it's just that Hitler kept getting in their way. Research has shown that germany could have very likely won WW2 if Hitler hadn't been a stuborn idiot.
Could, woulda, shoulda... don't mean shit. We could play that game forever. :P
It really came down to the fact the Germans were spread to thin and ill prepared for the coldness of the Russian winter.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:08 pm
by Foo
I basically won this thread.
Anyone seen my die?
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:08 pm
by Cool Blue
The real wonder is if it would bring in outside allies on both sides.
Russia to help China, and the US to help Japan.
That would be a shitty situation.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:20 pm
by Shmee
China - Nukes
Japan - No Nukes
China Wins. Anyway, this is a cultural tiff. Both sides are hardly blameless in the historical view. As for Taiwan - China permits Taiwan to exist because it would piss us off if they reintegrated by force, and the business kickbacks are great.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:23 pm
by Foo
Japan doesn't have Nukes?
I'd be inclined to dispute that. If not from a solid 'Internet Evidence' POV, then from a mere tech POV.
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:29 pm
by Shmee
They're expressly prohibited by their constitution and something tells me we'd know if they had them

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:30 pm
by phantasmagoria
japan has secret mechs
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:34 pm
by Foo
Shmee wrote:They're expressly prohibited by their constitution and something tells me we'd know if they had them

http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html
Spot the contradictions.
Hint: you may require several blank sheets of A4.
Therein lies my point regarding the validity of 'constitutions'.
having said that, Japan has adhered with greater faith than the US, IMO.
Re: Japan vs China
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:56 pm
by bag0shite
Cool Blue wrote:Think they'll go at it?
Oil is becoming pretty hot in demand these days...
The US will be fighting China before Japan, but at the rate the $$$ is being bought up by the Chinese, the Chinese will be able to bring the US economy to it's knees, which will be the likely trigger :icon31:
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:13 pm
by dmmh
chinese economy grows with 9% per year, in 10 years itll be bye bye USA