Micheal Moore tears Wolfie a new one

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Micheal Moore tears Wolfie a new one

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Clicky

He goes on a huge rant during a live broadcast and basically ignores whatever interview agenda Wolf Blitzer had (Blitzer increasingly looks irrelevant and incompetent in any measure of his profession) to smash CNN and the rest of the useless MSM for their uselessness on a number of issues.

Let's see if there are any non-fagg0ts out there who can address Micheal Moore's points instead of Micheal Moore. If I see a single post bitching about Mr. Moore instead of debunking the points he raises in this interview...I'll bomb yer house into the ground, missy.

For the record, CNN has already reported (last week) that Sicko's facts are accurate but the reporter now says that the movie "fudged the facts"....which - from my research on the subject (independant of Micheal Moore) - is a complete lie. Moore also announced he's going to discredit the reporter's (Sanjay Gupta) "facts" on his website...and there's a second segment playing tomorrow that they taped after the live segment.

I'm pretty sure that it was the preceding reporter's assertion that Sicko "fudged the facts" that set Mr.Moore off on the rant.
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you must be an idiot
Moore made himself look even more like a complete moron during the interview
i also love how he called the CNN commentary about Sicko "biased"
he also completely dodged questions about how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side
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fag
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you're back to missing the point again, blockedhole
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stocktroll wrote:you must be an idiot
Moore made himself look even more like a complete moron during the interview
i also love how he called the CNN commentary about Sicko "biased"
he also completely dodged questions about how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side
wrong...
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and this clip is taking for fucking ever to download.
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stocktroll wrote:you must be an idiot
Moore made himself look even more like a complete moron during the interview
i also love how he called the CNN commentary about Sicko "biased"
he also completely dodged questions about how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side
btw, have you seen the film?

also:
Europeans have grown in height as much as the rise in their average incomes during the 20th century would predict; Americans have not.

And it's not just height. Among the 20 most developed countries in the world, the United States is now dead last in life expectancy at birth, but leads the pack in infant mortality -- forty percent higher than the runner-up -- and in the percentage of the population that will die before reaching 60. (Perhaps it shouldn't be much of a surprise, then, that we lead the world in mental illness.)
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stocktroll wrote:you must be an idiot

he also completely dodged questions about how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side
Speaking of idiots...why don't you spell out exactly where in this interview that he was even asked any question about how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side? Where in this interview - in your version of reality - did that come up? Where in this video did the conversation even hint at going in that direction so that Mr.Moore had to dodge it? What? When Blitzer told Moore they played a few Sicko commercials?

You've given a very specific critique of this interview but there is no evidence whatsover of what you're posting ever occured in the 10-plus minutes he was live on-air.

You didn't watch it. :olo:
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R00k wrote:
btw, have you seen the film?
Never ask a moron an even slightly serious question. All you'll get is mouth breathing.
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Even if all I get is heavy breathing.... I can still hope he read what I posted.

It's good for my conscience. =\
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And I just watched the video. Holy hell.

I hope a lot of people saw that.
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here's a faster link, and it shows the last few seconds of Gupta's story before Moore comes on.

http://alternet.org/blogs/video/56446/
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Here's the segment before Moore went on:

Clicky

Dunno what your connection problems are...I'm downloading at 400 k/s from the site.

I have to say I agree with Moore's assessment that his movies (instead of the message) are bashed by the media every time - and long before - he shows up on-camera to defend it....which is how propaganda works...it sets the opinion so the message can be absorbed in the way the propaganda is supposed to be absorbed...making it hard for the viewer to later change his pre-opined mind to counter-arguements. Uses of the word "controversial" or whatever when they introduce him to the show do nothing but distract the viewer from the fact that Mr.Moore was correct while the media was wrong.

Never mind that he was right about Bush, Iraq, the Bin Laden/Bush family connections, Walter Reed, Universal Healthcare...fuck it...nearly everything....he's "controversial" so let's frame the debate in that light. :olo:

I've said it before I'll say it again...Americans aren't UNINFORMED, they're MISINFORMED.
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I'm most of the way through the clip and I'm still looking for the "dodging of the question" that cockholl was talking about.
I've seen tons of people immediately shut down and stop listening as soon as Moore's name is mentioned. Hell, I can't agree with what he did with Bowling for Columbine, but it's very hard to overlook the things he's been right about.
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Nightshade wrote:I'm most of the way through the clip and I'm still looking for the "dodging of the question" that cockholl was talking about.
You won't find it.

And the meatpuppet won't be back.
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Re: Micheal Moore tears Wolfie a new one

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GONNAFISTYA wrote:Clicky
That... was awesome.
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FISTED! :olo:
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thats because that clip does not show the segment prior that counters some of Sicko's assertions where he was asked to respond to

and no i didnt see that pos movie
i turned off bowling for columbine after that retarded montage 20 minutes in and refuse to watch a minute of any of his other pos fairy tales
but be my guess keep slobbing over his stubby cock
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stocktroll wrote:thats because that clip does not show the segment prior that counters some of Sicko's assertions where he was asked to respond to
He was never asked in the entire interview to respond to anything from the prior segment dumbfuck.
stocktroll wrote: and no i didnt see that pos movie
i turned off bowling for columbine after that retarded montage 20 minutes in and refuse to watch a minute of any of his other pos fairy tales
but be my guess keep slobbing over his stubby cock
Stay stupid...it keeps the GOP in office.
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"do you want to respond at all to anything you just heard"
crushed
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To comment on the prior segment by the reporter that Blitzer defended:

- they don't reinforce the facts from the movie (such as the cost differences per person/per year between Cuba and the US) and instead say,"He fudged the numbers...but wasn't too far off."
- they say that Canadians have the longest wait for doctor's appointments, worse than the US...but completely ignore the fact that Moore's movie wasn't talking about that...he was talking about non-elective, necessary surgery. This completely misleads the viewer in a different direction without reinforcing Moore's original point.
- they keep saying over and over,"No system is perfect...so it's not a big deal"

This is just cursory...I could tear the whole segment apart if I was inclined...but that wouldn't change any retard's minds.
Moore was right...it WAS a hit piece specifically created to be broadcast before Moore was on camera.
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stocktroll wrote:"do you want to respond at all to anything you just heard"
crushed
And he did. He said he needed ten minutes to respond...so he took ten minutes. He wasn't responding to the "facts" in the previous segment (any moron could do a fact check) but he was responding to the segment itself and the network that produced it.

I guess you were hoping for a point by point rebuttal? To nitpick the little things and missing the big picture?

So much for "dodging the question" ya fuckin inbred. :olo:
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Post by GONNAFISTYA »

Ah, I get it.

If you're a Micheal Moore hating retard it goes like this:
"do you want to respond at all to anything you just heard"
translates to:
how he manipulates a subject by exaggerating or over dramatizing the negatives and completely leaving out the positive side
:olo:

Oxygen. Everybody's breathing it. Give it a try.
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Post by [xeno]Julios »

wow - i've learned that stocktroll is a willing moron. How can you begin to critique Moore's points when you don't even know them (you didn't watch the film, you're not addressing Moore's fundamental points).
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[xeno]Julios wrote:wow - i've learned that stocktroll is a willing moron.
Welcome to March 2005. :olo:
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