Bush commutes Libby's prison term

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:17 pm

Another shocker, no one saw this coming, Bush is the anti-Christ, etc., etc.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/? ... c5MjAyZjI=

Post by **4days** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:37 pm

Mr. Libby was a first-time offender with years of exceptional public service

first offense? oh, well that makes it all okay then.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:45 pm

Great.

Post by **bikkeldesnikkel** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:56 pm

The Constitution gives the President the power of clemency to be used when he deems it to be warranted.

the hell? really?

Post by **Fender** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:10 am

Lots of comments here:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... /#more-682

I don't think I can sum it up any better than all those comments.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:45 am

So when's the revolution?

When are the 70% who are pissed off at Congress for not doing something about Bush/Cheney going to march in the streets in protest of a failed government?

Probably never.

Americans don't march...only french fagg0ts do.

Post by **Dave** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:57 am

motherfucker

Post by **mjrpes** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:23 am

Fender wrote:Lots of comments here:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... /#more-682

I don't think I can sum it up any better than all those comments.

yes, especially

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, presidential candidate
“After evaluating the facts, the President came to a reasonable decision and I believe the decision was correct.”

Doesn't Rudy know only 18% of people would agree with him? No wonder Republicans are so weak this election season.

Post by **R00k** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:53 am

I'm not surprised in the least. I only hope this can help bring Bush's approval ratings down below Nixon's where they belong.

The reason republicans are weak this season is the same reason democrats are: because being anywhere near the political center (read: promoting unifying issues) will not get you a presidential nomination in today's climate.

Post by **mjrpes** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:53 am

R00k wrote:The reason republicans are weak this season is the same reason democrats are: because being anywhere near the political center (read: promoting unifying issues) will not get you a presidential nomination in today's climate.

What issues do you have in mind? Most democratic proposals for even the decisive issue of Iraq have a unifying approach (read: Iraq Study Group).

Post by **tnf** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:19 am

I do think its not good for the dems to completely ignore some of the pardons clinton gave as he was leaving office (for example the marc rich pardon) as they bash bush here. Not defending his decision, even though he is completely within his legal rights as the president to do it, but I wish someday we'd find a politician who called BS on people from BOTH parties when he saw it. Mainly because I think the dems attacking Bush for this just gives more ammo for people to go back to Clinton's pardons and play that whole "he did it so why can't we" BS. But then the dems can go back at the republicans for going to great lengths to impeach clinton and want him removed from office for lying about a blow job, then turning around and agreeing that a prison sentence for lying about the outing of a CIA agent's identity is too harsh. Gotta love the cycle of hypocrisy. I was hoping the dems would come in and really hold some people's nuts to the fire to get some things done, but I've not been too happy with how things have gone. Aside from some bitching and moaning, they seem to have let themselves be assfucked by Cheney, Bush, Gonzales, et al.

Post by **mjrpes** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:39 am

have you read Clinton's op-ed on the ruch parons, tnf?

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/18/opini ... 1183521600

You have to at least give Clinton credit for being literate.

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:55 am

this is what happens when you give politicians veto over the decisions of juries

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:58 am

In a proper democracy this would be called corruption.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:31 am

God, that's disgusting.

Unrelated:
This is a pretty spiffy column on impeaching Cheney

http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=11229

Post by **R00k** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:48 pm

mjrpes wrote:
R00k wrote:The reason republicans are weak this season is the same reason democrats are: because being anywhere near the political center (read: promoting unifying issues) will not get you a presidential nomination in today's climate.
What issues do you have in mind? Most democratic proposals for even the decisive issue of Iraq have a unifying approach (read: Iraq Study Group).

I don't know, I guess I'm just commenting on the atmosphere. You have to talk about divisive issues. You're forced to take some kind of a stance on far-right or far-left questions.

In other words, wouldn't it be nice to hear this kind of Q&A session?

Q. Sir, if you're elected president what would be your stance on homosexual marriage, abortion, pulling life support on vegetables, allowing women to wear shoes while they're pregnant and passing a law to ban Paris Hilton from being on television anymore?

A. Errr, are you kidding me? We've got troops dying in quicksand in some god-forsaken desert halfway across the world, we've got huge income disparities in the working class, we've got hundreds of thousands of unsold and foreclosed houses with people about to go bankrupt because of shady loans, we're still paying out the nose for this rare and dwindling fuel and still running our entire military and economy on it, 50 million people who don't have access to healthcare including several thousand who will die because of it..... Should I go on?
We need to fix the shit that is broken around here before we go breaking more shit.

I don't know, maybe I'm just thinking like a proley.

Post by **Mogul** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:37 pm

Get real you homos. Clinton did roughly the same thing. I'm not saying Bush is right; they're both douches for doing it. This isn't something new.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:39 pm

Let's just all agree that there's a second set of rules for rich people and be done with it.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:40 pm

I don't understand why US presidents have this power in the first place. It's asking for corruption.

Post by **menkent** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:05 pm

officially the funniest part of Clinton's editorial about the Marc Rich pardon:

the case for the pardons was reviewed and advocated not only by my former White House counsel Jack Quinn but also by three distinguished Republican attorneys: Leonard Garment, a former Nixon White House official; William Bradford Reynolds, a former high-ranking official in the Reagan Justice Department; and Lewis Libby, now Vice President Cheney's chief of staff

Post by **bikkeldesnikkel** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:27 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:So when's the revolution?

When are the 70% who are pissed off at Congress for not doing something about Bush/Cheney going to march in the streets in protest of a failed government?

Probably never.

Americans don't march...only french fagg0ts do.

True. Fucking hell, if this isn't the last drop I don't know what the fuck is. All you american cunts get the fuck out and protest. You fucking pussies gonna let this shit fly?

Post by **bikkeldesnikkel** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:28 pm

crazy bastards

Post by **R00k** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:30 pm

Mogul wrote:Get real you homos. Clinton did roughly the same thing. I'm not saying Bush is right; they're both douches for doing it. This isn't something new.

Can you not see the circumstances that make this particular instance unique, and also make Bush essentially a liar?

jesus christ man, nobody even tried to imply it was "something new."

All you "Clinton did it too" people are seriously missing the fucking point.

Post by **Mogul** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:52 pm

Injustice is injustice -- and I know Bush is a fagg0t. Still though, I wanted to contribute at least something to counter this ridiculous liberal cesspool that is q3w.

I am a liberal myself. But some of you are annoyingly LOUD-N-PROUD like some pencil-dick fag in a parade, only this time your hard-on is for Clinton or maybe Bush's corpse, instead of your boyfriend.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:59 pm

Mogul wrote:Injustice is injustice -- and I know Bush is a fagg0t. Still though, I wanted to contribute at least something to counter this ridiculous liberal cesspool that is q3w.

I am a liberal myself. But some of you are annoyingly LOUD-N-PROUD like some pencil-dick fag in a parade, only this time your hard-on is for Clinton or maybe Bush's corpse, instead of your boyfriend.

America