Vista people

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:55 am

Do games run better with Vista than XP?
Isn't there something that when you run games, it shuts down some of the stuff that's not needed for gaming?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:06 am

when i ran it i dident see any diffrence to tell you the truth, Tomshardware and anandtech have reviews on this topic, check them out

p.s. some editing with liteon and XP can get it booting up with oly 32 megs of ram used, leaving the rest of it for whatever you want.

Post by **CaseDogg** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:00 am

i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:02 am

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305042

Post by **Sanction** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:04 am

CaseDogg wrote:i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?

Is that a bad thing?

Post by **dmmh** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:01 am

CaseDogg wrote:i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?

it runs terribly bad yes

Post by **eepberries** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:59 am

itunes is for nubs anyway anapod explorer is what the pros use

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:02 pm

I am able to run the blue screen of death in a higher resolution much smoother and has more useless info

Post by **scared?** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:36 pm

lol...microsoft hasn't sold 20 million copies of vista...liars!...

Post by **Immo** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:48 pm

FragaGeddon wrote:Do games run better with Vista than XP?
Isn't there something that when you run games, it shuts down some of the stuff that's not needed for gaming?

No, you can expect a 15% decrease in performance across the board in Vista. Even more so in Open GL applications.

Post by **obsidian** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:44 pm

scared? wrote:lol...microsoft hasn't sold 20 million copies of vista...liars!...

They did, but most of the "sales" were bundled with new computers. So yeah, 20 million people (minus 3) got force fed Vista.

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:56 pm

If anything I think Vista is slower with games. Its definitely way slower at alt-tabbing out of a game and over to a browser or chat window. It seems a bit slower with initial application load too. It may be that Vista and my background processes are consuming the majority of my 1gb of RAM.

Giraffe }{unter wrote:I am able to run the blue screen of death in a higher resolution much smoother and has more useless info

I had my first Vista BSOD the other day. When I came back I had lost my input devices and sound. After another reboot I had input but still no sound. Now I randomly lose sound after a reboot and I have to reboot again.

Post by **plained** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:59 pm

all them slow comps must effect productivity ey

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:03 pm

dmmh wrote:
CaseDogg wrote:i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?
it runs terribly bad yes

Itunes? It works just fine on my home system and laptop and both are running Vista. There was a permissions issue that Apple knew about and didn't bother to patch until 7.1 though so if you're going to use Vista then get the latest version of iTunes.

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:06 pm

Immo wrote:
No, you can expect a 15% decrease in performance across the board in Vista. Even more so in Open GL applications.

The difference isn't that high in my experience. Where are you getting 15% from?

bitWISE wrote: I had my first Vista BSOD the other day. When I came back I had lost my input devices and sound. After another reboot I had input but still no sound. Now I randomly lose sound after a reboot and I have to reboot again.

Sounds like a badly written sound driver. Creative soundcard by any chance?

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:28 pm

Tormentius wrote:
Immo wrote:
No, you can expect a 15% decrease in performance across the board in Vista. Even more so in Open GL applications.
The difference isn't that high in my experience. Where are you getting 15% from?

bitWISE wrote: I had my first Vista BSOD the other day. When I came back I had lost my input devices and sound. After another reboot I had input but still no sound. Now I randomly lose sound after a reboot and I have to reboot again.
Sounds like a badly written sound driver. Creative soundcard by any chance?

Yeah, creative

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:54 pm

bitWISE wrote:
Yeah, creative

I'm stuck with one of their cards right now too. The instability and BSOD isn't a Vista issue though, its more the fact that Creative still can't manage to write a stable driver for any OS and only released a final, non-beta Vista driver a week or so back :icon8:

Post by **debian_i386** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:22 pm

I run quake 3 on vista..sometimes it lags (because my av will do quick random scans, or it is because my computer is still booting when i run it), but 99% of the time, it works at the same speed that it would on xp (i run a celeron (3.2ghz) with 512mb ram shared, 128mb video card, 112 gig hdd)

quake 3 works perfectly with me

Post by **CaseDogg** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:46 pm

eepberries wrote:itunes is for nubs anyway anapod explorer is what the pros use

props!

Post by **CaseDogg** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:46 pm

dmmh wrote:
CaseDogg wrote:i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?
it runs terribly bad yes

fa sho.

Post by **CaseDogg** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:47 pm

Sanction wrote:
CaseDogg wrote:i heard you cant run itunes in it or something.?
Is that a bad thing?

if you're a noob.

Post by **Scourge** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:49 am

Tormentius wrote:
bitWISE wrote:
Yeah, creative
I'm stuck with one of their cards right now too. The instability and BSOD isn't a Vista issue though, its more the fact that Creative still can't manage to write a stable driver for any OS and only released a final, non-beta Vista driver a week or so back :icon8:

Just for the record. I have an Audigy and haven't had a glitch yet.

Post by **mjrpes** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:55 am

debian_i386 wrote:quake 3 works perfectly with me

I would dearly hope a 7 year old game would run smoothly on Vista :icon26::icon14:

Post by **dzjepp** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:57 am

You would think, but the last time I was on vista pb would crash q3 for me

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:38 am

bitWISE wrote:If anything I think Vista is slower with games. Its definitely way slower at alt-tabbing out of a game and over to a browser or chat window. It seems a bit slower with initial application load too. It may be that Vista and my background processes are consuming the majority of my 1gb of RAM.

Funny, I've had the opposite experience. Alt-tabbing out of a game feels quicker than with XP to me. Maybe it has to do with the game though, because alt-tabbing out of Oblivion is a lot faster than out of Supreme Commander to me.

And as has been said before, the Vista memory handler doesn't work the same way as the XP one, so saying that Vista consumes most of your RAM doesn't mean the same thing as if it was XP doing it. XP tries to minimize the RAM footprint, while Vista utilizes the otherwise unused RAM for caching to speed up the system, which makes it appear like it's "hogging" your RAM while in fact it's not.

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