Well, its time to take that next step with console content..

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:50 am

yeah... THAT STEP. Bungie is now asking for your cash to get a couple of extra maps. Not a whole new game, not a few new game modes, but MAPS. You remember doing that with about 1232100213 maps Epic released for free yeah?

Well, they will be available via retail and live...

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/599/599105p1.html

I don't play X-Box live Halo 2 for some reason, i just didn't enjoy it as much as the first, mainly because of the weapons. But damn, pay $19.99 for 9 maps? No thanks.

Post by **Scourge** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:52 am

Hah. Pay for maps. They gotta be fucking kidding.

Post by **andyman** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:15 am

That is just for people who don't have Xbox live. And someone would just be stupid to pay that, unless they had absolutely NO way of getting an xbox online and using those freebie trials.

There are probably very few people that will be paying that.

edit: nm, after reading a bit more I see that bungie has just dug their own grave and microsoft is putting flowers on the headstone.

Post by **Scourge** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:18 am

I have no way of getting X-box online and there isn' t any way I'd pay for that. I''d rather wait for community maps, if that were an option. Even if not, I still wouldn't. Alll content or none.

Post by **andyman** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:25 am

I'm going to see what happens with getting the shit off the net or somehow.

This whole thing they have created is just a load of shit.

And I lost my wallet last night, so now I am really pissed.

Post by **Mat Linnett** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:29 am

Ubi already did this with Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow for XBox.

I think it's despicable, but when you take in to consideration that a lot of XBox users will just soak up the cost as a matter of course, no questions asked, it's going to be "successful".
My fear is what does this mean in the long run for the rest of us?

Post by **Foo** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:10 am

As PC-Users, very little... I can't see a shift in PC-Game developers charging for content-creation tools or extra media they put out.

However for the consoles? It's interesting... the last few generations of consoles have been hyped as reaching the point where you can create, edit and download new content just like the PC is capable of... only the reality is that now it's here, it's just not the same, things aren't free, and it doesn't look like it's going to mean a better deal for gamers.

A real shame.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 1:11 pm

that's really shady. first we spend the money for the xbox to play halo2. then we have to buy halo2. you wanna play online? oh- well that's $9.99 a month. oh- and you want more maps to play with your friends? $19.99, please.

Xbox Hardware: $199.99
Halo 2: $49.99
Xbox Live Package: $79.99
Xbox Live Per Month: $9.99
Extra Maps: $19.99
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Grand Total: $359.95

so essentially, people who are wanting to start fresh and play Halo 2 online with their buddies on the new map Containment will have to spend more than 350 bucks. isn't it bad enough to have to buy the equipment, the subscription, and the game?

Post by **MKJ** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:37 pm

didnt microcock do this already with..uh.. mechassault or summat?
fucking gay i tells you. the whole point of the subscription according to microsoft was to pay for servermaintainance, bandiwidth and <b>free downloadable content</b>

and whats worse, there are people who are actually paying to download 3 extra maps *which were prolly made during the initial development anyways*

:icon33:

Post by **Jackal** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:50 pm

Foolish. They should be paying me to play on X-Box Live and babysitting a bunch of 7 year old retards.
I'm cancelling mine today.

Post by **shadd_.** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:13 pm

yeah it's fucking bs. you will have to pay to download them from live. it's not just for the people who do not have live.

so we get two free maps, then you can pay for the rest. it's really fucking stupid.

this will really fuck up matchmaking.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:15 pm

its just a cash grab.. thats all..

Sooner or later, they will finally do Internet/network based CO-OP.. the one thing that EVERYONE is telling them to do.

Post by **shadd_.** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:16 pm

thing is, all the little kids will download them without the parents even knowing(till they get the cc bill anyways).

you don't have to enter any cc number to get additional content.

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:16 pm

Aye, thats the problem. Paid for content splits the community. Not everybody will have it, so not everybody can play.

Look at Team Arena, great game but not for retail. If you wanted to play it, you had to buy it, and that just wasn't an option for most people. So, you had the community split.

If TA was free, then everybody could of played. IMHO, I feel it should of been a free upgrade to QUAKE 3. I.E. Not a mod, but a whole update to Quake 3, so everytime you played Quake 3, you played TA as well.

Post by **shadd_.** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:21 pm

whats really funny is all the console noobs backing up bungie with this.

"OMG BUNGIE WORKS THEIR ASSES OFF, IT TAKES OMG SO MUCH TIME TO PRODUCE A MASSIVE 9 MAPS FOR US"

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:30 pm

Thats because console guys are still unaware of just how easy it is to map for an engine you have been working with for years...

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:00 pm

o'dium wrote:Aye, thats the problem. Paid for content splits the community. Not everybody will have it, so not everybody can play.

Well said. I think this is a pathetic idea. I hope this kind of shit does divide the community to the point that nobody plays anymore and thousands of people cancel their XBox Live service. :icon19:

I wonder if you can warez them...

Post by **andyman** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:07 pm

They said that it will all be free by summertime anyways so not a big deal too much.

Didn't you guys read the update? http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.asp ... &p=2747963

Post by **Pext** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:45 pm

c'mon... that's halo we're talking about. a game nobody should really care about anyways.
why play halo multiplayer with your xbox if there is stuff like cpma, painkiller, counterstrike and unreal tournament for your pc?

Post by **andyman** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:30 pm

Live voice features, beatrice.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:23 pm

andyman wrote:Live voice features, beatrice.

Counter-Strike Source has this. :icon22:

Post by **Postal** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:32 pm

Did you read the whole statement by bungie at all?

By the end of july or so, all 9 maps will be available for free download, due to mountain dew helping them out (with 2 of the original 4 being released are free anyway).

The only cost they put on there for the extra maps is for bandwidth, and the CD's are for people without Live.

Don't whine about having to pay for something when it's coming out in a few months for free anyways.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:06 pm

andyman wrote:Live voice features, beatrice.

sirstrongbad wrote:
andyman wrote:Live voice features, beatrice.
Counter-Strike Source has this. :icon22:

Teamspeak has this. :icon22:

Post by **andyman** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:07 pm

sirstrongbad wrote:
andyman wrote:Live voice features, beatrice.
Counter-Strike Source has this. :icon22:

yeah but live costs less overall. Do you have to push a button to talk in CSS?

Post by **Bdw3** » Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:09 pm

*remembers roger-wilco and Action Quake 2*