Hitler had a nuke?

Post by **Strangler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:48 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4348497.stm

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna ... 93,00.html

Post by **phantasmagoria** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:49 am

this was already posted and moved to qwfix, for some reason.

Post by **Eraser** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:58 am

A bomb that spread radioactive material... yes. A nuclear bomb that was as destrucitve as the bomb the americans dropped on Hiroshima... no.

Post by **busetibi** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:01 am

would'nt that be classed as a "dirty bomb"
rather than a nuke?

Post by **Pext** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:06 am

most of it is not supported by any kind of evidence:

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/interna ... 93,00.html

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:08 am

Is this frontpage news in German, Pext?

Post by **Strangler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:18 am

I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:52 am

Strangler wrote:I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.

no WMDs because.. well.. they werent invented yet

at least not to its full. the US rushed them out and gave it a good testing on hiroshima.
it worked better than anyone expected

Post by **blood.angel** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:55 am

Strangler wrote:I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.

Bio weapons never appeared til the 50s-60s.
Chemical weapons, they did use.
Gas chambers, remember?

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:03 pm

blood.angel wrote:
Strangler wrote:I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.
Bio weapons never appeared til the 50s-60s.
Chemical weapons, they did use.
Gas chambers, remember?

But never in combat. Some historians speculate the reason the weapons remained in storage is Hitler's personal experience with chemical weapons in the trenches of WW1.

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:39 pm

Ryoki wrote:
blood.angel wrote:
Strangler wrote:I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.
Bio weapons never appeared til the 50s-60s.
Chemical weapons, they did use.
Gas chambers, remember?
But never in combat. Some historians speculate the reason the weapons remained in storage is Hitler's personal experience with chemical weapons in the trenches of WW1.

Chemical weapons would have just been annoying because the troops were already well prepared after WWI. Even when chemical weapons were introduced in WWI they did fuckall.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:50 pm

I doubt that.... Sarin was one of the next generation war gasses invented before WW2 - really deadly stuff.

Also, WW2 era Soviet Union and 'well prepared' do not go well together.

Post by **blood.angel** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:23 pm

Ryoki wrote:I doubt that.... Sarin was one of the next generation war gasses invented before WW2 - really deadly stuff.

Also, WW2 era Soviet Union and 'well prepared' do not go well together.

Yeah but I doubt binary Sarin was invented then (too lazy to google) which has a shelf life of years. The 'ordinary' Sarin broke down in mere hours.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:36 pm

I'm also too lazy to google.

Post by **Pext** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:38 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:Is this frontpage news in German, Pext?

no - feuilleton

Post by **blood.angel** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:46 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:Is this frontpage news in German, Pext?

Unlikely, its a fucking book.
The BBC is running it probably because they will have a program based on it soon.

Post by **Pext** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:58 pm

i find it funny how british and german tv are both obsessed with nazi stuff...

Post by **blood.angel** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:00 pm

Pext wrote:i find it funny how british and german tv are both obsessed with nazi stuff...

History Channel is, what, 95% WW2 related?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:16 pm

hitler didn't use chemicals in combat cuz he actually thought it was unsporting...even for war...

and he got muster gassed in ww1 and didn't like it...

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:22 pm

Pext wrote:i find it funny how british and german tv are both obsessed with nazi stuff...

its the only really interesting bit of modern history that happened in europe

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:32 pm

blood.angel wrote:
Strangler wrote:I always wondered why the Germans never used weapons of mass destruction or biological weapons.
Bio weapons never appeared til the 50s-60s.
Chemical weapons, they did use.
Gas chambers, remember?

the japanese had bio weapons... they were going to use them on the u.s.
they had a lab in japan cooking up a more potent strain of the black plague, and they were going to release it using fleas.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:38 pm

the us had huge stock piles of chemical weapons in austrailia and were gonna use them if we invaded the jap mainland...

Post by **Don Carlos** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:48 pm

busetibi wrote:would'nt that be classed as a "dirty bomb"
rather than a nuke?

yeh...but no

Post by **Arkleseizure** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:56 pm

The flea bomb thing the Japs had? That was cool...kind of like how China tried killing their citizens with SARS after an experiment went wrong with biochemical weapons for a war against the United States....

Post by **Strangler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:22 pm

Freakaloin wrote:hitler didn't use chemicals in combat cuz he actually thought it was unsporting...even for war...

and he got muster gassed in ww1 and didn't like it...

so killing 20 million soviet civilians and 6 million jews and 6 million non jews in the camps wasnt unsporting?

by the way why didnt soviets use it? They obviously had obligations to follow the geneva convencion since they didnt sign it and they broke international rules anyway with stuff like the katyn massacre.