chickenhawks exposed...crushed...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:05 pm

next...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/28/966/14833

Post by **phantasmagoria** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:35 pm

i thought this was an ornithology thread

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:04 pm

Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?

Post by **phantasmagoria** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:08 pm

twisted sense of patriotism maybe?

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon May 29, 2006 6:38 pm

Dave wrote:Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?

War is sweet to those that did not experience it.

Post by **Big Kahuna Burger** » Mon May 29, 2006 6:49 pm

Dave wrote:Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?

Exactly. Clinton never served. Why should it matter?

"We want peace! Say no to war! but you can't be our president without fighting in a war!"

Post by **seremtan** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:03 pm

Freakaloin wrote:next...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/5/28/966/14833

In another time and place, some of today's not-so-brave might have elbowed little old ladies and children out of the way to secure a berth on the last lifeboat on the Titanic, or maybe they''d have ratted out resistance fighters to the Gestapo in WW2 France.

told :icon14:

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:31 pm

Ryoki wrote:
Dave wrote:Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?
War is sweet to those that did not experience it.

I'm not sure what you mean by "sweet" (cool, romantic, easy, etc), but that's got nothing to do with it either. It's kind of a broad assumption to make that those who do not experience war find it sweet. Making war isn't the only business of a politician.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:46 pm

Dave wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by "sweet" (cool, romantic, easy, etc), but that's got nothing to do with it either.

sure it does dave...don't be a moron...

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:53 pm

Why geoff? or is "don't be a moron" the best reply you can come up with?

Post by **StormShadow** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:54 pm

Dave wrote:Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?

If someone is going to send people off to fight and die in a war, I would feel much knowing that they had actually been there themselves and truly understand all the reprecussions of sending people to their deaths.

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:56 pm

So Americans need to manufacture wars in order to keep our capitols stocked with war experienced politicians?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:58 pm

wow dave...ur amazingly retarded...

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:59 pm

Post by **StormShadow** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:01 pm

No.

But I would trust a guy who has been there and done that to have his finger on the button more so than a guy who was on a bender during his entire military service.

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:04 pm

Well there's your problem, you're assuming that I'm talking about Bush...

Post by **StormShadow** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:06 pm

no, just using that as an example

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:10 pm

So Bush did some military service... see where that got us. Like my originial post said:

"Why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?"

That qualification seems to be irrelevant...

Here's an idea. If the military industrial complex is such a money drain on the US economy, lets keep putting people in office with ties to the military.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:13 pm

lol dave...the military complex has kept americas economy out of a whole since 2001...dumbo...

Post by **phantasmagoria** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:15 pm

lol, whole.

adult education class :icon10:

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:16 pm

The problem is that it worked... Too well. Now America has helped foster so much global comeptition that we're struggling to keep up. So now we pump more money into the military than we do into things like education becuase the dollar no longer commands world wide respect on its own. Now we supplement dollar diplomacy with military strength. That's not the way to run an empire.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:19 pm

nah...its more germany in the 20's printing money trying to keep their economy from crashing...its almost over...

Post by **Dave** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:28 pm

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:36 pm

u mean the treasury printing money like theres no tomorrow is a conspiracy? rofl@themoron...

Post by **tnf** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:46 pm

Dave wrote:Ignoring all the issues of draft dodging and string pulling, why does military service have to be a prerequisite for holding legitimate high office?

I agree for most offices, but I really do think that there is something to be said for the commander in chief having some real military experience...I don't think that a lack of military experience would necessarily make you an ineffective leader though, so I don't think it should be a prerequisite...

Perhaps part of the issue people have is that it often seems like the military is the only option many people have for obtaining an education, and the consequence of that decision now is that they are put into a very unpopular war, while the sons and daughters of most of the people who made the decision to send them there are safely tucked away at universities. (that isn't necessarily my opinion, just an observation...I'm avoiding political arguments for awhile...)

Are there any statistics about how many of the senate and congress's kids are actively serving in Iraq?

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