Best Buys will be getting 360s on the 3rd apparently...

[tnf]

http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb/ultimatebb ... 002981;p=0

Go down about 2 posts...there is an allocation list for Best Buys by store#...

dunno if it is true or not. Guess we'll know when people start lining up tomorrow.'

[Foo]

Seriously what's the big deal?

Barely anyone seems stoked abou the 360, it's not a very exciting console, there's little hype in the online community, gamer reviews seem to be along the lines of 'it's ok I guess'.... and MS have deliberately throttled production to try and artificially increase the hype... and it's failed.

PS3 better be good.

[BlueGene]

A lot of stores don't have them in North America, but they aren't that hard to find.

[tnf]

A lot of stores don't have them in North America, but they aren't that hard to find.

There's a lot of people who would disagree with that...(the not hard to find bit).

The demand in the states is still very high (and I am not sure why at this point - I've got one, and while its not a bad console setup and has a few fun games - i.e. PGR3, Condemned) there isn't a "must play" title for it that gamers should be scrambling to experience. I think the console has a lot of potential if and when the developers utilize its full power.

To be honest, I'm enjoying the old school arcade games I got from the Xbox live service (Zuma, Geometry wars evolved - which was actually in PGR3, Hexic, etc.) I've put a lot of time into Zuma lately.

[SOAPboy]

http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=66;t=002981;p=0

Go down about 2 posts...there is an allocation list for Best Buys by store#...

dunno if it is true or not. Guess we'll know when people start lining up tomorrow.'

Its true..

Those lists have been publicly released for the last 2 shipments and have been dead on every time..

[SOAPboy]

A lot of stores don't have them in North America, but they aren't that hard to find.

There's a lot of people who would disagree with that...(the not hard to find bit).

The demand in the states is still very high (and I am not sure why at this point - I've got one, and while its not a bad console setup and has a few fun games - i.e. PGR3, Condemned) there isn't a "must play" title for it that gamers should be scrambling to experience. I think the console has a lot of potential if and when the developers utilize its full power.

To be honest, I'm enjoying the old school arcade games I got from the Xbox live service (Zuma, Geometry wars evolved - which was actually in PGR3, Hexic, etc.) I've put a lot of time into Zuma lately.

Walmart here on wannamaker has 3 sitting in the case, with nobody giving a shit..

[tnf]

A lot of stores don't have them in North America, but they aren't that hard to find.

There's a lot of people who would disagree with that...(the not hard to find bit).

The demand in the states is still very high (and I am not sure why at this point - I've got one, and while its not a bad console setup and has a few fun games - i.e. PGR3, Condemned) there isn't a "must play" title for it that gamers should be scrambling to experience. I think the console has a lot of potential if and when the developers utilize its full power.

To be honest, I'm enjoying the old school arcade games I got from the Xbox live service (Zuma, Geometry wars evolved - which was actually in PGR3, Hexic, etc.) I've put a lot of time into Zuma lately.

Walmart here on wannamaker has 3 sitting in the case, with nobody giving a shit..

Can you show me any online retailers that have them in?

[SOAPboy]

There's a lot of people who would disagree with that...(the not hard to find bit).

The demand in the states is still very high (and I am not sure why at this point - I've got one, and while its not a bad console setup and has a few fun games - i.e. PGR3, Condemned) there isn't a "must play" title for it that gamers should be scrambling to experience. I think the console has a lot of potential if and when the developers utilize its full power.

To be honest, I'm enjoying the old school arcade games I got from the Xbox live service (Zuma, Geometry wars evolved - which was actually in PGR3, Hexic, etc.) I've put a lot of time into Zuma lately.

Walmart here on wannamaker has 3 sitting in the case, with nobody giving a shit..

Can you show me any online retailers that have them in?

ebay stores?

Dunno.. thought you had one..

[+JuggerNaut+]

A lot of stores don't have them in North America, but they aren't that hard to find.

There's a lot of people who would disagree with that...(the not hard to find bit).

The demand in the states is still very high (and I am not sure why at this point - I've got one, and while its not a bad console setup and has a few fun games - i.e. PGR3, Condemned) there isn't a "must play" title for it that gamers should be scrambling to experience. I think the console has a lot of potential if and when the developers utilize its full power.

To be honest, I'm enjoying the old school arcade games I got from the Xbox live service (Zuma, Geometry wars evolved - which was actually in PGR3, Hexic, etc.) I've put a lot of time into Zuma lately.

demand is high, because MS screwed up.

[tnf]

Walmart here on wannamaker has 3 sitting in the case, with nobody giving a shit..

Can you show me any online retailers that have them in?

ebay stores?

Dunno.. thought you had one..

I do have one. I'm just asking because people keep saying they are not hard to find and that many retailers have them in stock. So I figured online wouldn't be any different...and not via ebay.

[Cooldown]

[Freakaloin]

http://forum.xbox365.com/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=66;t=002981;p=0

Go down about 2 posts...there is an allocation list for Best Buys by store#...

dunno if it is true or not. Guess we'll know when people start lining up tomorrow.'

whats ur point?...

[mjrpes]

Seriously what's the big deal?

Barely anyone seems stoked abou the 360, it's not a very exciting console, there's little hype in the online community, gamer reviews seem to be along the lines of 'it's ok I guess'.... and MS have deliberately throttled production to try and artificially increase the hype... and it's failed.

PS3 better be good.

Our reliable friend theinquirer.net says the PS3 will be "late and full of bugs". In summary, creating games for a multiprocessor engine is harder than it appears.

http://theinquirer.net/?article=28656

Seeing as I feel the same way about XBox 360, with its assortment of graphically rich but overpriced games following the same-old-same-old formula of bland fps/race car/football + new textures, maybe Nintendo might be on to something here by not focusing on multi-processor-advanced-graphics-kludge: keep it simple, stupid. And focus on content.

Who knows though, it seems just as likely that nintendo's 'revolutionary' controller will be a complete failure. Let's hope those press agents weren't lying when they said the controller was 'wonderful' and 'so natural to use.'

[SOAPboy]

Can you show me any online retailers that have them in?

ebay stores?

Dunno.. thought you had one..

I do have one. I'm just asking because people keep saying they are not hard to find and that many retailers have them in stock. So I figured online wouldn't be any different...and not via ebay.

Oddly people seem to of just stopped looking in stores it seems.. to them

[R00k]

Our reliable friend theinquirer.net says the PS3 will be "late and full of bugs". In summary, creating games for a multiprocessor engine is harder than it appears.

http://theinquirer.net/?article=28656

Seeing as I feel the same way about XBox 360, with its assortment of graphically rich but overpriced games following the same-old-same-old formula of bland fps/race car/football + new textures, maybe Nintendo might be on to something here by not focusing on multi-processor-advanced-graphics-kludge: keep it simple, stupid. And focus on content.

Who knows though, it seems just as likely that nintendo's 'revolutionary' controller will be a complete failure. Let's hope those press agents weren't lying when they said the controller was 'wonderful' and 'so natural to use.'

Yep, the 'next gen' seems to be having a hard time getting off the ground with the 360. I get the feeling they rushed for Christmas and failed miserably - not just for not meeting demand, but also for releasing and hyping before any next-gen games were out to play on the next-gen console.

For the Revolution though, I'm hopeful. Nintendo has had a wireless-controller flop before, called the Power Glove, and I get the impression they are keen to make this one natural-feeling and usable -- the press reviews are making me hopeful that they've put the time into this to make it work well.

Besides, the worst case scenario for Nintendo is they will have a new, more powerful console with a regular, working wireless controller, on which to showcase the latest version of their classic games. There is no way they can lose their original fan base, so it's practically a no-risk situation.

[Grudge]

The Revolution is only looking better and better, while the 360 and PS3 continues to disappoint.

[Giraffe }{unter]

Can you show me any online retailers that have them in?

ebay stores?

Dunno.. thought you had one..

I do have one. I'm just asking because people keep saying they are not hard to find and that many retailers have them in stock. So I figured online wouldn't be any different...and not via ebay.

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/p ... -all/did-5

[-Replicant-]

i went to my local best buy, after checking the day before and being told to come back on the 3rd, and stood in line from 5:45am until 10am when the store opened, only to have the clerks waiting at the door tell us that they had sold out of the xbox 360s and just enjoyed watching us stand around and freeze outside (in so many words). i nearly killed someone, before realizing that its a freaking video game console, and there is no reason to get worked up about such things

[R00k]

So can Microsoft not produce & ship these fast enough?

I have a hard time believing they are just screwing with the supply to increase demand, since they could have made such a massive killing selling them at Christmas. Is that really what's going on?

[o'dium]

The problem is the lies. Sony have spread a LOT of bullshit about the console, about how its rubbish (yeah, coming out and saying as much), about how its so much more slower compared to the PS3 etc etc.

The problem is, they are right. The PS3 is faster. By about 2%. And that 2% will be SERIOUSLY fucking hard to squese out of the machien, thanks to the dumb asses at Sony cocking up with the SDK AGAIN. So, you will have your few hardcore game devs making seriously cool looking games, and the rest will be the usual "Its a game? Ok, slap PS3 at the top and sell it" rubbish.

The difference in the console comes mainly in the form of one thing. Disk size. The PS3 uses blu-ray, but its a format thats not 100% supported by everybody, costs bucket loads to make, and will just end up adding to the cost of the game. SONY already said publicly that we shouldn't expect the PS3 to be under 500 quid. and with the fact they STILL charge 20 quid for a memory card, i believe the robbing bastards.

The problem is, that a lot of kids believe the hype, the bullshit, and thats what sells the console. The PS2 sells so well because kids think "hey, i need to have this!" even though its the most expensive on the 3 last gen consoles, and the least powerful. It costs the most to fund (Memory cards, eye toy, mics etc), it lasts the least time (Average lifespan of 6months) and it has the biggest Shite to go game ratio, but hey, it sells because jimmy can get GTA on it. Wow. Good old GTA. Nice to see them making ANOTHER on the PS3. Anybody would think ides ran out a long time ago.

I was willing to give it a shot, the PS3 a while back. But then boom, i sat and watched the Metal Gear 4 trailer. You know, that trailer that has the best graphics ever, and blows everything else away? I was unimpressed. Gears Of War looks fucking ace, 10x better than metal gear. What made the trailer even WORSE is the fact that Metal Gear 4 is only possible thanks to a cell processor. Thats right kids, bump maps and high poly models are only possible thanks to a cell cpu. Wow. Oh, and then they went on to show why the PS3 is so good... But showing A) a closed of demo of some nice water effects, that will NEVER make it into a game world in real time, and B) a fake video of killzone, that was already stated as fake anyways.

Great stuff.

Whatever happens, you can be sure SONY will havea LOT of money thanks to this. They aim to please themselves, and they do it every time.

20 quid for 8meg? What a fucking joke.

[o'dium]

Oh yeah, and just to set things right, the DS outsold the PSP 4 to 1 this year. Unless you rad Sony figures, which says the PSP outsold everything this year. Heh.

The 360 is capable of 2% less than the PS3, but the difference will be nothing like last time because they are so the same.

The 360 only over heats when its cramped up in a corner with the PSU. Try covering all the airflow in your PC and see what happens.

The 360 only scratches disks when you knock it while on. FACT. Same as, well, the old xbox and the Fat PS2. Its the cd rom drive, and stupid kids to blame.

The 360 launch "faulty" percentage is VERY low, under 3%. Unlike the PS2, which had over 30% faulty at launch.

M$ has said on several times now that the PS3 will be a struggle and that they look forward to seeing what comes of it, and that the revolution looks amazing. Meanwhile, Sony have said that nintendo need to grow up and see how wrong they are, and that M$ should never of even bothered, full stop. Nice hey?

Thats why i hate Sony so much when it comes to consoles, they are just so up their own arses, and lie through their teeth man...

[primaltheory]

Oh yeah, and just to set things right, the DS outsold the PSP 4 to 1 this year. Unless you rad Sony figures, which says the PSP outsold everything this year. Heh.

The 360 is capable of 2% less than the PS3, but the difference will be nothing like last time because they are so the same.

The 360 only over heats when its cramped up in a corner with the PSU. Try covering all the airflow in your PC and see what happens.

The 360 only scratches disks when you knock it while on. FACT. Same as, well, the old xbox and the Fat PS2. Its the cd rom drive, and stupid kids to blame.

The 360 launch "faulty" percentage is VERY low, under 3%. Unlike the PS2, which had over 30% faulty at launch.

M$ has said on several times now that the PS3 will be a struggle and that they look forward to seeing what comes of it, and that the revolution looks amazing. Meanwhile, Sony have said that nintendo need to grow up and see how wrong they are, and that M$ should never of even bothered, full stop. Nice hey?

Thats why i hate Sony so much when it comes to consoles, they are just so up their own arses, and lie through their teeth man...

right on buddy, not to mention that the ps3 is basically a PC, they have next to nothing in the way of archecture

[Jackal]

Average lifespan of the PS2 is six months? Bullshit. Show me concrete numbers and stop spouting your oppinion as "fact".

[Jackal]

Oh yeah, and just to set things right, the DS outsold the PSP 4 to 1 this year. Unless you rad Sony figures, which says the PSP outsold everything this year. Heh.

The 360 is capable of 2% less than the PS3, but the difference will be nothing like last time because they are so the same.

The 360 only over heats when its cramped up in a corner with the PSU. Try covering all the airflow in your PC and see what happens.

The 360 only scratches disks when you knock it while on. FACT. Same as, well, the old xbox and the Fat PS2. Its the cd rom drive, and stupid kids to blame.

The 360 launch "faulty" percentage is VERY low, under 3%. Unlike the PS2, which had over 30% faulty at launch.

M$ has said on several times now that the PS3 will be a struggle and that they look forward to seeing what comes of it, and that the revolution looks amazing. Meanwhile, Sony have said that nintendo need to grow up and see how wrong they are, and that M$ should never of even bothered, full stop. Nice hey?

Thats why i hate Sony so much when it comes to consoles, they are just so up their own arses, and lie through their teeth man...

And I specifically remember reading an interview with some PS3 developers talking about how they are really enjoying the 360 and that they think it's a great machine.

[o'dium]

Average lifespan of the PS2 is six months? Bullshit. Show me concrete numbers and stop spouting your oppinion as "fact".

Its true. The problem was with the lasers, and over heating, so Sony "fixed" the problem by giving it a cheaper laser, and by removing the main fan to save money.

Thats why at my store, we get 1, maybe 2 a "DAY" faulty. Compare that to the xbox, which we get one of every fwe months, and the game cube which we get one a year, if we are lucky.

I dunno, maybe in my area its just more chavy so they fuck up the consoles more. But the yearly returns for consoles should prove it. Ill try and find none-sonyfied figures.