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I'll try to summarize some of the director's points that I could remember:

• Debris found at the Pentagon attack site matches with components in a Tomahawk, but does not match Boeing 737

• Private security footage from surrounding area was confiscated post-attack by the FBI

• The size of the impact hole in the Pentagon matches the size of a cruise missile or plane fuselage, but no wing or tail fin impacts are found on the outside of the building

• Titanium engine parts cannot melt in burning kerosene, yet no titanium components are found in debris

• Firefighters at the WTC heard multiple explosions on low-numbered and basement floors before the towers collapsed

• Shock waves from said explosions apparently knocked out first-floor glass fixtures and marble walls in buildings before the towers collapsed

• Several unscheduled and extraordinary "safety drills" pulled WTC workers out of the buildings some months before 9/11, causing power outages to security and TV monitoring systems

• Multiple eyewitnesses corroborate on witnessing two military planes fly low above the crash site in western Pennsylvania, which is denied by government officials

• Cell phone logs indicate most cell phone calls from flight victims took place at cruising altitude. Ad hoc evidence is presented showing a low success rate (0.6%) for cell phone usage at this altitude.

• Hijacker passport used for identification of perpetrators survives the WTC impact but redundant flight recorders do not in both impacts

Whether there is or is not a conspiracy, I personally agree that the 9/11 Commission was a joke, weakened to the point of inefficacy.

Had it been given any power to do its job, and had it been run by parties who would have the courage to pursue answers, much of this speculation would be disproved from the start. Further, if the government had addressed questions in a truthful and open manner, it would be harder to present speculation as compelling truth.

I'll agree with Metafilter's conspiracy theory that this is probably the work of the GOP and/or Karl Rove and friends. They ultimately benefit from the uncertainty raised in any conspiracy theory, since it distracts people from more important issues like, say, the Vietnam-like situation in Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, massive oil profiteering, Halliburton scandals, Plamegate, torture, etc. etc.

seremtan wrote:i think alex jones covered this stuff already

Dave wrote:

seremtan wrote:i think alex jones covered this stuff already

AOL was trying to censor his site too, remember? Oh yeah, that turned out to be false and he never posted a retraction.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... ensors.htm

R00k wrote:I find it a little ridiculous when people say they believe 19 random Arabs could pull off these perfectly executed attacks and successfully penetrate our military defenses, but the most powerful people in the world would never even be able to pull off complicity.

R00k wrote:I find it a little ridiculous when people say they believe 19 random Arabs could pull off these perfectly executed attacks and successfully penetrate our military defenses, but the most powerful people in the world would never even be able to pull off complicity.

Foo wrote:You're arguing the possibility of someone being able to do is as proof that someone specific did it.