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Opera has an annoying banner that doesn't go away unless you pay $40. Case closed, FF wins.

duffman91 wrote:Some speed comparisons:

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

After looking at the data, Lynx is the fastest and best browser.

Odd, the page itself says: "To summarise

So overall, Opera seems to be the fastest browser for windows."

Lynx is just text and graphics, like Netscape from 1996.

duffman91 wrote:Some speed comparisons:

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

After looking at the data, Lynx is the fastest and best browser. Remember, the best software is the software that works for YOU

I don't need mouse gestures, I don't need to save a split second on rendering times, I don't need my browser to report itself as something else. I don't need opera.

I need tabbed browsing on a simple interface that happens to be open source. I need firefox.

Don't forget that not all websites follow universal standards. Many are only written to work in Internet Explorer. In that sense, IE is the superior browser. Who wants features when they can't open certain pages?

You'll soon see that the argument over browser superiority is retarded. Much like arguments about computer architectures, programming languages, etc.

Btw., that domain belongs to a guy who just started working at Opera.

rep wrote:

Eraser wrote:The fewer IE users, the safer the Internet.

News flash: Even though Mozilla's amount of users claim was proven highly inflated, Firefox is still the new IE. It's got a ton of exploits, and it's not all that great. Who wants to upgrade every week because of a security flaw, mostly due to negligent 'programmers'?

Updates don't come out that often, and the fact that there are regular updates means that they're actually working on it.

And as for Mozilla's amount of users being highly inflated, that was a comment by some Opera official if I remember correctly. So much for a neutral source of information.

Additionally, I remember that he didn't say the amount of FF users was inflated but that the number of Opera users is deflated because many Opera users set their user-agent identification to IE. It's not like FF users are actually IE users. IE users can't change their user-agent setting.

Besides, who cares how many people use FF. I certainly don't. All I know is that Firefox suits my needs and I don't need another browser. Not IE, not Konqueror, not Safari, not NeoPlanet, not Opera. Case closed. And if FF is an inferior product in your eyes, then why would you care if I continued using it? It doesn't hurt you does it?

Transient wrote:Opera has an annoying banner that doesn't go away unless you pay $40. Case closed, FF wins.

Wrong. Open source makes you pay more in the end. The world obviously will never switch to open source garbage like Linux, so there will never be an entirely free majority. Linux nerds have this crazy idea that someday everyone at home will be on free products, small businesses will run cheap servers, and big business will stay pretty much the same as it is now, on corporate Linux. Bzzzz. Wrong.

1. Without big companies to steal innovations from, computer software would not evolve.

2. Free open source 'competition' displaces real competitors so one of two things happens: a.) Higher prices for legit products. b.) Prices drop so low that the industry suffers and we start seeing people whining on blogs about how Microsoft pays them $8 hourly to program Office 12.

So it's the end user that gets hurt. By supporting Opera, I know I'm not wasting my time with a garbage product like Firefox. I know I'm getting the fastest Internet experience by multiple virtues.

Besides, Firefox won't last another five years. Google is looking for a browser, and word on the street is since Google likes functionality, performance, and features they're obviously heading to Oslo.

Fucks.

Transient wrote:Opera has an annoying banner that doesn't go away unless you pay $40. Case closed, FF wins.

stay in school

Why change your user-agent ID to IE? I am guessing for those retarded sites that only allow you to view them if you're using IE?

netrex wrote:

duffman91 wrote:Some speed comparisons:

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

After looking at the data, Lynx is the fastest and best browser. Remember, the best software is the software that works for YOU

I don't need mouse gestures, I don't need to save a split second on rendering times, I don't need my browser to report itself as something else. I don't need opera.

I need tabbed browsing on a simple interface that happens to be open source. I need firefox.

Don't forget that not all websites follow universal standards. Many are only written to work in Internet Explorer. In that sense, IE is the superior browser. Who wants features when they can't open certain pages?

You'll soon see that the argument over browser superiority is retarded. Much like arguments about computer architectures, programming languages, etc.

Btw., that domain belongs to a guy who just started working at Opera.

That is precisely the guy I was talking about who had no credentials in the tech world whatsoever, yet suddenly had some expert status from the Opera fanboys, because he can take shitty old machines, test browsers, and then BS everything for his employer.

Those sites are almost extinct, but in case some clown tries to cock block Opera like some hater suggested in this thread.

rep wrote:Higher prices for legit products.

What's not legit about FF? Fucking tard.

OMFG, I jsut read the entire reply you made to me. God, you're a moron. I'm not even going to bother arguing with you! :lol:

rep wrote:

Transient wrote:Opera has an annoying banner that doesn't go away unless you pay $40. Case closed, FF wins.

Wrong. Open source makes you pay more in the end. The world obviously will never switch to open source garbage like Linux, so there will never be an entirely free majority. Linux nerds have this crazy idea that someday everyone at home will be on free products, small businesses will run cheap servers, and big business will stay pretty much the same as it is now, on corporate Linux. Bzzzz. Wrong.

1. Without big companies to steal innovations from, computer software would not evolve.

2. Free open source 'competition' displaces real competitors so one of two things happens: a.) Higher prices for legit products. b.) Prices drop so low that the industry suffers and we start seeing people whining on blogs about how Microsoft pays them $8 hourly to program Office 12.

So it's the end user that gets hurt. By supporting Opera, I know I'm not wasting my time with a garbage product like Firefox. I know I'm getting the fastest Internet experience by multiple virtues.

Besides, Firefox won't last another five years. Google is looking for a browser, and word on the street is since Google likes functionality, performance, and features they're obviously heading to Oslo.

Fucks.

I don't knows whats worse, the fact you actually went to all the trouble to make all that up, or the fact you actually believe that.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:That is precisely the guy I was talking about who had no credentials in the tech world whatsoever, yet suddenly had some expert status from the Opera fanboys, because he can take shitty old machines, test browsers, and then BS everything for his employer.

Dickdrip,

The entire community of Slashdot, a haven for open source clowns, couldn't refute any of the tests. Try again.

By the way, the quick tests I ran were on these CPUs:

AMD Athlon64 4000+
AMD Athlon 3200+ (3000+ OCed to 3200+. Yeah, huge leap there. Air cooling, who cares. Squeezing every last drop out.)
AMD Athlon 2200+
Intel Pentium 4HT 3.0
AMD Opteron 244 (Dual)

Oh, and while I didn't run formal tests on the old K6-2 systems I have rusting away, Opera 7.0 blasted Internet Explorer out of the water on them, and since Internet Explorer beats Firefox, well you know the rest.

why is it that you have to resort to namecalling? how does that help, exactly

It makes him feel better about himself. But I can't complain, because I do it too.

MKJ wrote:why is it that you have to resort to namecalling? how does that help, exactly

E-penis for when he knows he's spouting subjective numbers as though they were cold, hard facts.

Cunt.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:

MKJ wrote:why is it that you have to resort to namecalling? how does that help, exactly

E-penis for when he knows he's spouting subjective numbers as though they were cold, hard facts.

Shut it. By your own logic you defeat your arguments.

One day you say Firefox is 'better' because more people use it. Since you're such a big fan of Linux, that must also mean that Windows is better because more people us it.

WTF are you talking about? Make sense, damnit!

rep wrote:Wrong. Open source makes you pay more in the end. The world obviously will never switch to open source garbage like Linux, so there will never be an entirely free majority.

lol - you retard know nothing about open source, programming, OSs, whatever computing. Naming Linux 'open source garbage' proves it.

You just come in here and spew bullshit all over the place like a 1. perfect troll or 2. a complete moron.

christ almighty we get this pointless debate every time a firefox update comes out, and it's getting not young

btw I'm gay...

My car is faster than rep's. Ha ha! What kind of idiot is too cheap to pay more for a car that is fast? My car is fastest and therefore the best. Fact.

Have fun driving around in a car that is slow. Nerds.

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I love sitting back and watching rep trumpet his stupidity to the world.

I used Opera once. It was clunky, unstable, and had an annoying banner. It also doesn't have support for things I use daily with FF such as, BugMeNot, Habari Xenu, Google Images Relinker.