Firefox 1.0.5 released

[seremtan]

Pay for a browser :lol:

well, quite

there's a free version, but it comes with an annoying ad in top right and a load of corporate links in the bookmarks. i'll be sticking to firefox

[shiznit]

I think Dave should add a script so the site bans Opera. :icon19:

[dnoyc]

or rep.

[+JuggerNaut+]

I'm a fucking idiot and I like to try to insult people for doing what I do in nearly every post I make.

You couldn't get "laid and paid" in a compensated study of nymphos with fat nerd fetishes.

whoa

[seremtan]

I think Dave should add a script so the site bans Opera. :icon19:

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if {Opera}
then $redirect 'http://www.goatse.cx'

you can tell i'm not a programmer :icon26:

[mik0rs]

It does the job for getting the message across :icon14:

[Cooldown]

well the new update broke some of my extensions

[Scourge]

Edit: For some reason, Firefox nerds protest the results of that famous browser benchmark that clearly shows Opera being miles ahead of the rest.

I never protested it, I said that I didn't care about some miniscule, hardly noticable speed difference that isn't worth having the ad or paying money to make it go away. I did try opera and as I stated before, didn't really impress me much. Sure it's fine, but not good enough for me to switch.

[SOAPboy]

so why switch browsers?

:lol: Because Opera is the fastest, most featured out of the box, best Internet experience. Period.

If you can't afford it, then fuck off. Pennies a day pays for it, and it's well worth it.

Edit: "Oh my GOD! $39 spread out over the span of years??? That's like, half the price of a DATE! With a real girl!" Nurdz.

Maxthon > Opera

Maxthon = Free

[rep]

I think Dave should add a script so the site bans Opera. :icon19:

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if {Opera}
then $redirect 'http://www.goatse.cx'

you can tell i'm not a programmer :icon26:

Identify as Internet Explorer. Problem solved.

[Eraser]

Have nothing against Opera myself, but it does give me the feeling of these hundreds of options I'll never use anyway being thrown at me at once. It's interface feels all cluttered up and stashed with buttons and functions I would barely use. Add a flashy banner to that and the picture is complete.

That's the reason why I've never bothered with Opera. That, and the fact that finally Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox render 99% of all pages correctly while Opera still seems a bit "behind" on that (have to admit "behind" isn't the correct term as it's mostly down to supporting non-standards).

[rep]

Redundancy says what?

[Eraser]

Redundancy says what?

How can an opinion be redundant?

[rep]

People have said the same stuff before, and I've told them how easy it is to minimalize the browser look.

Opera can be the most minimal browser. You can even get rid of the file/edit/view standard windows menu buttons and STILL retain complete functionality through the use of mouse gestures and a few commonly used keyboard shortcuts.

[4g3nt_Smith]

People have said the same stuff before, and I've told them how easy it is to minimalize the browser look.

Opera can be the most minimal browser. You can even get rid of the file/edit/view standard windows menu buttons and STILL retain complete functionality through the use of mouse gestures and a few commonly used keyboard shortcuts.

That doesn't change the fact that for free, I can get a browser with the exact same functionality that would either A)rewire me putting up with what is essentially ad-ware, or B)paying money. Don't even try to go with the speed argument, that test you seem to swear by was performed by some nomark on a single shitty machine. On every machine I've tried them on, Firefox has been the faster of the two, but the actual difference was so small the only persons who would notice would be nitpicking cunts like your self. The speed argument is useless, as each browser will run differently on every machine.

[Eraser]

People have said the same stuff before, and I've told them how easy it is to minimalize the browser look.

Opera can be the most minimal browser. You can even get rid of the file/edit/view standard windows menu buttons and STILL retain complete functionality through the use of mouse gestures and a few commonly used keyboard shortcuts.

The thing is that with Opera, I would first have to figure out how to customize it in a very specific way to achieve that. This would be hard, because Opera has so many options, it has a steep learning curve. Leaving away those options and allowing expert users to add them is better than throwing every expert-user-feature at noobs at once.

Additionally, I refuse to memorize a dozen mouse gestures to learn how to operate a browser (heh, operate... get it.... OPERAte...? hehe.. umm.... nm, not funny )

[rep]

Are you kidding me?

You go into customize and click on things you don't want and select 'off' or add things you do want.

Opera is the best browser on the planet, and has the most features. Nothing else comes close to being as functional, and even if something did, it wouldn't be anywhere near as fast.

I've tested Opera vs. IE vs. FF on six different computers with totally different configurations. In every case, Opera won easily.

You don't have to memorize any mouse gestures if you don't want to. The fact is they're there, and increase your browsing ten fold. Firefox has tried and failed at copying this perfected feature of Opera to no avail. I guarantee you on the same Internet connection an amateur user who has familiarized themself with Opera would beat the most experienced IE or FF user at getting things done, it's just that damned productive.

Republicans, lol. :lol:

[netrex]

Trumping Firefox's typical bug fix release, Opera revolutionizes the browser market AGAIN by adding BitTorrent protocol support. $10 says Mozilla tries to copy this feature sometime.

Opera is the fastest, and most fully featured (best) browser on the market. Firefox will never be good, because the fat lady just sang. It's over. Opera is the best.

http://my.opera.com/forums/showthread.p ... adid=96020
http://www.opera.com/

I used Opera for years. But it always crashes on me. No matter what hardware or OS (been using XP and 2k). So except for that it's pretty damn good. But I got tired of it and started using Firefox and I never looked back.

[Eraser]

Ok, so maybe it is the best browser. I don't have a feature vs feature comparison but let's assume Opera has more features. I haven't seen a speedtest but let's assume that Opera is faster. I don't know exactly how well Opera renders pages, but lets assume it renders every page as it was intended to be shown.

Still, I wouldn't switch to Opera simply because I'm used to Firefox and it allows me to do everything I want to do.

I only know that I dislike the interface Opera initially presented me when I first installed it to check it out and that it had a big bad banner embedded in it's interface. Those two things might be changeable, maybe even through configuration. But why go through the trouble of configuring the browser or paying for it when I already have a free browser that offers me enough features "out of the box" and is stable and secure enough for me to trust it. The extensions are the icing on the cake.

So there's just no reason for me to switch.

My loss? Sure, so be it. I'm not the one complaining. Instead of directing your fury against Mozilla/Firefox users, direct your fury against IE users.

The biggest threat for Opera isn't Firefox. The biggest threat for Opera is Internet Explorer, and that's simply because many people aren't even aware of there being alternatives for IE. Inform those people of Opera's superiority. Then you're doing a good job. The fewer IE users, the safer the Internet.

If a Firefox user switches to Opera, then that doesn't do anything in the battle against IE. You're targetting the wrong people rep. Or are you just being jealous at Firefoxes sudden popularity?

[Eraser]

now that I think about it, maybe Firefox actually is Opera's biggest threat. IE is already there. Has a user base. It isn't growing more popular, it's popularity is declining.

However, this loss in popularity in IE is caused by an increase of popularity for Firefox. Since it's still mostly nerds and geeks using alternative browsers and those nerds apparantly choose Firefox over Opera then there's no chance for Opera to ever push IE from the browser throne. Firefox will have a bigger chance (how tiny it may be) to do that.

[Eraser]

watch rep completely ignore this or start about punctuation or something like that again

[duffman91]

Some speed comparisons:

http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html

After looking at the data, Lynx is the fastest and best browser. Remember, the best software is the software that works for YOU

I don't need mouse gestures, I don't need to save a split second on rendering times, I don't need my browser to report itself as something else. I don't need opera.

I need tabbed browsing on a simple interface that happens to be open source. I need firefox.

Don't forget that not all websites follow universal standards. Many are only written to work in Internet Explorer. In that sense, IE is the superior browser. Who wants features when they can't open certain pages?

You'll soon see that the argument over browser superiority is retarded. Much like arguments about computer architectures, programming languages, etc.

[4g3nt_Smith]

watch rep completely ignore this or start about punctuation or something like that again

No, he'll just make some comment he assumes is intelligent about how Open source projects steal everything from his beloved Opera, or that they're only used by fat nerds. Either way, you to can duke it out whilst I go surf the interweb in brushed metal bliss.

[duffman91]

Aside from speed, what exactly does Opera give its userbase that's worth 39 USD? I sure as hell can't see it. And I've used both.

Remember that the majority of people, will only visit: a forum, ebay, and some sort of webmail.

[rep]

The fewer IE users, the safer the Internet.

News flash: Even though Mozilla's amount of users claim was proven highly inflated, Firefox is still the new IE. It's got a ton of exploits, and it's not all that great. Who wants to upgrade every week because of a security flaw, mostly due to negligent 'programmers'?