Quake3World

There it is, thanks.

I said PC gamers are a dying breed. Not that PC gaming is dead.

But we've already done this many times...

xer0s wrote:There it is, thanks.

I said PC gamers are a dying breed. Not that PC gaming is dead.

lol

I don't know what you're laughing at: you looked like a moron not even remembering what you posted just a while ago, and are now trying to weasel your way out of making dumb statements.

lol indeed

lol, you start salivating every time you see me post...

You really got that "if you pay attention to me being stupid I own you" approach down pat, don't you?

Do I?

scared? wrote:the only ppl who think only kids play video games are old ppl and ppl who suck at games...they don't count...

I do too count 1,2,3...

FUCKING PWNED

lol people who play video games...

lol I killed ur parents during a threesome...

lol I fucked ur dad at bondi beach

lol I fucked your ancestors at Thrace

lol i fucked your protocell at Pangaea

That's just fucked, man.

scared? wrote:lol I killed my kids during a threesome...

lol good one...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia ... 13499.html

Meh

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Please feel free to tell me which console in history was superior to a PC product available at release.

You've got an interesting point there, as until the current generation, that hasn't happened. However, when PS3 and XBox 360 were introduced, they represented performance that was comparable to only the cutting edge top-of-the-line $1000+ PC's. It isn't until recently that the PC platform has once again been able to really set itself apart performance wise. This may not be due to the availability or lack of raw processing power but to choices made by game developers and publishers. To the public's eye, there is no difference though.

Console games became more and more popular, more games got sold for XBox360 or Playstation 3 than for the PC and thus developers/publishers focus more on the console platforms. At some point, this led to some people claiming PC gaming was dead. PC gaming hasn't been pronounced dead before exactly because of what you stated: game consoles weren't comparable to PCs yet, there was still quite a gap. But with the current generation, this gap has been closed, (wrongly) feeding the sentiment that PC gaming is dead.

Now, however, the consoles are starting to show their age (we're talking 7 year old hardware here) and suddenly the pro-PC crowd claims console gaming is dead. It's a ridiculous discussion.

My point was that when the next generation of consoles will arrive, the whole discussion will slowly go back to claims of PC gaming being dead, until that generation is 5, 6 or 7 years old and the PC will again have a significant performance advantage. So people claiming that this is dead or that is dead will probably go from left to right in the rhythm of the life cycles of consoles.

I WILL FIST J00 ALL INTO SUBMISSION!!!!!WTF IS THE MASTER SERVER?

ever play q3 with a joystick?
other than play with my joystick?

MY POINT MADE!!!

wut's an xbox?

hi piddla.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Please feel free to tell me which console in history was superior to a PC product available at release.

The PS1; it came out before 3d accelerator cards I beleive...?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/33 ... er-report/

Probably another bullshit rumour, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. Don't expect to see another SNES-PS1 style leap in performance again. PC has and always will be the best performing games machine. It's just a shame we rarely see any games that take advantage of it anymore.

Oh well, my GTX 580 renders Windows 7 really well. Well worth the money!

brisk wrote:PC has and always will be the best performing games machine. It's just a shame we rarely see any games that take advantage of it anymore.

That's just the whole thing why consoles seem to be just as fast (or faster) than PCs.

When developing a game, you want an audience as big as possible for your game, so if you're targeting cutting edge hardware you've only got a small percentage of the entire PC gaming community that can actually run your game well. You might say they should offer scaling graphics quality options so high end PCs can make use of this, but why put the effort (and invest money) in doing this if it's only going to please a relatively small amount of people. If you rely heavily on, for example, DX11 functionality, then you'll need to offer DX9/DX10 equivalents to those for older systems which can be a lot of work.

If you're developing for consoles, you know what hardware is in there and you can push that to its limits because you don't have to worry about older hardware. Especially when a console generation is new, developers can push those consoles further than they can when developing for PCs.