More mentally defunct pisslamist chimps.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

How come 3/4 of the Welshies I know are racist?

[scared?]

It's not just religion Dumbo's... These guys had ties to Yemen... The west facilitated the overthrow of their leader and replaced him with as puppet... Now there's a civil war... Is not black and white ever... Grow up...

[Captain]

I like how every terrorist has the same prison mugshot.

[seremtan]

How come 3/4 of the Welshies I know are racist?

and you only know 3 Welshies

tricky math

[seremtan]

Y'know I haven't heard ONE Christian group speak out against the violence done to that poor Muslim pregnant woman. (and no one here could be bothered to say anything either)

Nuke from space? DDDDDDEEEEEERRRRRRPPPPP

i did. nuke yourself for functional illiteracy, BBBBUDDYYYYYY

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

You had already proven yourself a human earlier in this thread and thus it didn't count.

[PhoeniX]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

"Yeah, you go first and we'll all follow you in".

[seremtan]

You had already proven yourself a human earlier in this thread and thus it didn't count.

*gives reacharound*

speaking of bullshit:

Rupert Murdoch has been strongly criticised after tweeting that “most Moslems” – even if peaceful – must be held responsible for the religion’s “growing jihadist cancer” in the wake of the terror attacks in France...

“What we’ve said all along, and have been called bigots for it, is when there’s this many bad apples, there’s something wrong with the orchard,” [Bill] Maher said.

and speaking of hypocrisy:

In Sweden Björn Söder, one of the leading members of the Sweden Democrats party, faced a backlash over the Facebook post he made directly after the Paris shootings: “The religion of peace shows its face.” Fellow politicians reported Söder... to police...

silenced by bullets day of mourning; silenced by police just another day

should be Europe's fucking motto

[xer0s]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

"Yeah, you go first and we'll all follow you in".

Yeah, I'm not an expert in SWAT team tactics, and I'm sure they're doing it right, but it doesn't look like they're doing it right...

[Eraser]

How come 3/4 of the Welshies I know are racist?

and you only know 3 Welshies

tricky math

One of em is only one quarter racist?

[losCHUNK]

How come 3/4 of the Welshies I know are racist?

I figured this would've cleared up how serious I was about nuking brown people from orbit like some alien

My opinion is that although there are portions (more than a few) that are willing to condone these actions, on the whole they're as disgraced as the rest of us.

I don't see a race, I see a person that is influenced by his background and usually that background is culture or religion. Now, If you say you like all cultures / religions then you're a liar, disliking someone elses culture is only natural and dates back to the tribal days and beyond - everyone has their preferences. That's not to say that everyone from that culture / religion acts the same, otherwise I would dislike everyone of that particular group. If it makes you feel any better I hate the British general public - bunch of ignorant arseholes.

I'm not a big fan of Religion either, but I have argued on here before why the Muslim faith is shit as fuck when compared to other religions, basically arguing that Muslims are more devout to their religion and the more devout a religion is the less 'advanced' it is in our society but again that's not to say that all Muslims are the same, otherwise I'd dislike them all n all.

I won't hold it against anyone I meet either, I'll judge them on their individual merits. I don't see the difficulty in seperating the social aspect from the individual and that goes for junkies / criminals (serious crimes aside) or anyone else deemed a piss stain on society. I think a racist needs to be hateful of a group n all, I don't hate any society / religion, if it works for them then fair enough it just doesn't mean that I can't dislike it.

[PhoeniX]

Yeah, I'm not an expert in SWAT team tactics, and I'm sure they're doing it right, but it doesn't look like they're doing it right...

Guessing there were other people from other corners of the building who also went in, or he was full of body armour and was trying to draw their attention so the rest of them could get a shot off but it does look odd. Mind you, if everyone piled into the building chances are somoene would get friendly-fired in the chaos. Seems like some of them had handguns not submachine guns too?

I figured this would've cleared up how serious I was about nuking brown people from orbit like some alien

Worryingly I think Farage sums it up pretty well. I consider myself pretty left-wing as well so it's not often I'll agree with either Fox or him .

[youtube]0XT9m6f7RCo[/youtube]

[seremtan]

the only thing Farage sums up pretty well are the same tired cliched bullshit arguments that are routinely made by the right. "assert our values"? which are, Nigel? care to list them for us? the guy doesn't specify anything, not even in policy terms, he just plays mood music

he's one of these dumb fucks who can't seem to recognise that yes, there is a fifth column in every western country, and that fifth column is ourselves. there he is, little Nigel, defending the fortress walls of the West with his sword and his trusty shield of 100% organic British values (whatever they are), not realising that the citadel's being slowly torn down behind him by the very people he thinks he's protecting. a handful of Islamist weirdos can just walk right in, because we left the gate open for them

and that's another thing: the impact of events like this depends entirely how *we* respond, and that's entirely in our control, not dictated by dickheads who shoot cartoonists (or Norwegian islands full of kids, for that matter)

[feedback]

In other news, a 10-year old girl in Nigeria had a bomb strapped to her and detonated in a crowded market, killing 17 people and injuring many more.

[losCHUNK]

the only thing Farage sums up pretty well are the same tired cliched bullshit arguments that are routinely made by the right. "assert our values"? which are, Nigel? care to list them for us? the guy doesn't specify anything, not even in policy terms, he just plays mood music

he's one of these dumb fucks who can't seem to recognise that yes, there is a fifth column in every western country, and that fifth column is ourselves. there he is, little Nigel, defending the fortress walls of the West with his sword and his trusty shield of 100% organic British values (whatever they are), not realising that the citadel's being slowly torn down behind him by the very people he thinks he's protecting. a handful of Islamist weirdos can just walk right in, because we left the gate open for them

and that's another thing: the impact of events like this depends entirely how *we* respond, and that's entirely in our control, not dictated by dickheads who shoot cartoonists (or Norwegian islands full of kids, for that matter)

I don't like Nigel in the slightest but I think he's making some good points there that aren't really new. The racial segregation for example is a big gripe of mine, in that communities tend to stick together, not learn the language or attempt to integrate. I live in a very multi cultural area from all over the world and the divide amoungst them all is insane, it does create a fair amount of tension and encourages racism because of that divide imo, like a tribal system. It has always been an area of migrants like, but over the last 10/15 years it's gotten a lot worse. Wether that's cos of greater numbers or a change in policies I dunno

In other news, a 10-year old girl in Nigeria had a bomb strapped to her and detonated in a crowded market, killing 17 people and injuring many more.

:L

[Eraser]

and that's another thing: the impact of events like this depends entirely how *we* respond, and that's entirely in our control, not dictated by dickheads who shoot cartoonists (or Norwegian islands full of kids, for that matter)

Unfortunately, the media have a large influence on how the populace responds to this and what I'm seeing is that the media in general is making this whole thing more important than it is. It sounds harsh, but other than the personal misery of families of the victims, this attack doesn't have a whole lot of influence on the daily going ons in the world. If the media would just not hype the whole thing up like they do, maybe the next terrorist in line will think twice and come to the conclusion that it's not worth it because no one cares anyway.

[seremtan]

eh? how could nutjobs gunning down a dozen cartoonists in a fit of extreme butthurt *not* be big news? this isn't just some standard American mall shooting; it has a political dimension that gives it a greater significance

the media often make too much off bullshit, no question - but this isn't one of those occasions

[Ganemi]

Wow, you're all fucking dumb.

[Eraser]

it has a political dimension that gives it a greater significance

It what and hows now? Political dimension? Sorry, but last time I checked it were some poor folk that were butthurt over some cartoon. Do you really think this attack makes any difference in today's world? I don't.

You know, yesterday on Dutch television, the planned broadcast schedule was interrupted to bring "BRAEKING NEWZZZ" about how the demonstration march in Paris had ended and nothing otherwise particularly interesting had happened. Seriously, that is making things more important than they really are.

[seremtan]

so Dutch TV sucks balls. what's that got to do with anything?

[Ryoki]

If the media would just not hype the whole thing up like they do, maybe the next terrorist in line will think twice and come to the conclusion that it's not worth it because no one cares anyway.

If bad people do bad things that make us feel bad the media should ignore it because writing and talking about it only rewards them?

Why that doesn't sound completely backwards at all.

[Eraser]

I should've said it the other way around.
Thing is, I think it exemplifies terrorist actions. Making a whole deal out of it could just be that little bit of extra push someone needs to be inspired into doing similar things.

On the other end of the collective perception there's the whole fear mongering among your own populace aspect.

[seremtan]

i think you should have said it, period. yes, the way we respond to terror attacks has some input into how likely they are to recur, but that response is larger than just the non-stop dribble of 24-hour news

needless to say, some Western govts will use this as an opportunity to roll out some half-arsed Potemkin legislation that does nothing other than give the appearance that they're doing something

[feedback]

I think the way to deal with it is by insisting that there is no problem. That's the only way this problem, which doesn't exist, will be solved.

[Eraser]

I think the way to deal with it is by insisting that there is no problem. That's the only way this problem, which doesn't exist, will be solved.

Yeah, I've had that thought cross my mind with previous terrorist actions as well, like the bombing on Bali in 2002. The bombing wasn't claimed by any (terrorist) organization from the get-go, this happened only somewhat later. Now what if government officials would've said that it wasn't a terrorist attack or at least, not the work of whoever claimed to be responsible for it but just some local resident who was completely crazy? Then the terrorists would've been like "but... but... but..." and the whole thing is deflated.

It's not really a realistic option of course, truth will probably come out after a while but I found it an interesting thought.