Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked

[Transient]

I always assumed everything I did was being monitored, or at least that it could be obtained at a later date if deemed necessary. Knowing my paranoia was justified doesn't make it any better, even though realistically the gov't doesn't really give a fuck what I do.

Just knowing they could, potentially, snoop on me is enough to offend me...

[Eraser]

even though realistically the gov't doesn't really give a fuck what I do.

Not you as an individual perhaps, but you are part of a greater collective that acts and moves in a certain way. By analyzing the mass, anything that deviates too much from can be labelled as target for more in depth research. Your behavior defines may just be a tiny blip in the mass, but together with the rest of the mass, you define certain variables that the NSA is using to detect the odd ones out.

So yeah, the NSA couldn't give a crap about whether or not you go to work every day, spend 2 hours a day playing video games and visit some crappy forum, but I guess they do use that information to define models that they use to isolate and identify their targets.

[scared?]

The information being collected is not being used for fighting terrorism(unless ur a moron). It's primarily being used as a political and economic blackmail tool by the status quo...got it morons? K thx...

[seremtan]

So yeah, the NSA couldn't give a crap about whether or not you go to work every day, spend 2 hours a day playing video games and visit some crappy forum, but I guess they do use that information to define models that they use to isolate and identify their targets.

so there's potential here to jam the system, kind of the same way you can when filling in a captcha by typing nigger as one of the words

eventually the OCR scanned works of Jane Austen will sound like they were written in West Baltimore

[losCHUNK]

Good luck clogging that printer :]

Looks like Snowden is a bit stranded ?

From what I've read over the last few days It seems that el presidente of Ecuador revoked the travel pass issued by its London consulate with the help of Julian Assange, saying its invalid. Then have have gone onto say that in line with their current law that asylum seekers are required to be inside Ecuadorian territory to make an application?. Well that's like saying you can look at the food but not eat it.

There is a difference between the 2 I believe n all, Assange was publicising already released information where people like Manning and Snowden are directly opposing laws by releasing the info ?

If Russia has laws anything like our laws then we should have seen Snowden placed on a plane to his home country within 24 hours regardless of extradition, without the protection that Assange is getting from the Ecuadorian embassy I'd say that Murica are holding all the cards ?

It's pretty mad with all the support he's getting that no one can do anything lol.

[scared?]

Red wall of moronics...

[seremtan]

Snowden fucked up by revealing his own identity. he should have stayed in Hawaii with his pole-dancer gf and had crazy sex instead of dicking around in a Moscow airport

[losCHUNK]

Red wall of moronics...

Owned. In response to your post n all, if you think the NSA and GCHQ are the only organisations that do this then maybe you need to put your tinfoil hat back on.

Snowden fucked up by revealing his own identity. he should have stayed in Hawaii with his pole-dancer gf and had crazy sex instead of dicking around in a Moscow airport

Aye, I said that about Manning. I thought this dude was a bit smarter by fleeing the country 1st, guess I wasn't expecting him to flee somewhere that has an extradition treaty with the US only to move on to mother Russia

[losCHUNK]

Havn't had time to check the news today so missed this

Vladimir Putin has for the first time floated the idea of the US whistleblower Edward Snowden remaining in Russia, hours after the fugitive applied for political asylum in the country.

Snowden applied for asylum at the consular office at Moscow's Sheremtyevo airport at 10.30pm on Sunday through his Wikileaks handler, Sarah Harrison, a consular official said.

"The UK citizen Sarah Harrison passed on a request by Edward Snowden to be granted political asylum," said Kim Shevchenko, a staff member at the airport's consular department. He said he then called the foreign ministry, who sent a courier one hour later to pick up the request.

He declined to say where Harrison or Snowden, who have not been seen since landing in Sheremtyevo last week, were staying. "She didn't say and I didn't ask," he said.

In a move likely to enrage the US, Putin said on Monday: "If he wants to go somewhere and someone will take him, go ahead. If he wants to stay here, there is one condition – he must stop his work aimed at bringing harm to our American partners, as strange as that sounds coming from my mouth."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ssia-offer

Must've missed that he applied for asylum yesterday n all. This was done after el presidentes comments (I dunno his real name or what his position is actually called), this was also after he released information about spying on EU members. So, anti-spy now turns Russian spy ? :P, or maybe buying himself some breathing room and Putin playing politics.

Either way my red wall of moronics was spot on the money .

[seremtan]

Snowden fucked up by revealing his own identity. he should have stayed in Hawaii with his pole-dancer gf and had crazy sex instead of dicking around in a Moscow airport

Aye, I said that about Manning. I thought this dude was a bit smarter by fleeing the country 1st, guess I wasn't expecting him to flee somewhere that has an extradition treaty with the US only to move on to mother Russia

manning didn't reveal his own identity; someone else did

[losCHUNK]

Ahh no shit ?, I only knew about him cos of the wikileaks docu that's floating about. Had it on in the background.

He get caught bragging in a pub or someshit ?.

[seremtan]

no some douche he told on the interwebs about the stuff he was leaking ratted him out

[mrd]

"Never trust anybody."

[losCHUNK]

Must've forgot his Guy Fawkes mask . What an arsehole though.

[mrd]

Why the fuck would you tell someone on the internet about that sort of operation? Jesus. Do not tell a single soul about that sort of thing. I know it's hard to keep a secret but fuck... look at him now.

[losCHUNK]

Holy crap this guys mother is Welsh, he was spent a few years here about 60 miles away and was taught in Welsh schools. Explains why he's retarded and trusts anything, including the magic bean salesman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning

Looks like a mixed up kid n all with no one willing to listen. Reading this -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... ey_Manning

Makes it sound like he was offering the information to anyone and everyone.

2 sides to every story though.

[seremtan]

basically it's the sheepshaggers' fault he turned out a bad 'un

He became the target of bullying at the school because he was the only American. The students would imitate his accent, and they apparently abandoned him once during a camping trip. His aunt told The Washington Post: "[H]e woke up, and all the tents around him were gone. They left while he was sleeping." He was also targeted because of being considered "effeminate." Nicks writes that he had told two of his friends in Oklahoma that he was gay, but he was not open about it at school in Wales.

Yanto, i am disappoint

[losCHUNK]

Just beating him straight, another few yrs he mightve had a normal life

[losCHUNK]

Just try and stop us !

(Reuters) - The journalist who first published secrets leaked by fugitive former U.S. intelligence agency contractor Edward Snowden vowed on Monday to publish more documents and said Britain will "regret" detaining his partner for nine hours.

British authorities used anti-terrorism laws on Sunday to detain David Miranda, partner of U.S. journalist Glenn Greenwald, as he passed through London's Heathrow airport.

Miranda, 28, a Brazilian citizen, said he was questioned for nine hours before being released without charge, minus his laptop, cellphone and memory sticks, which were seized.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/ ... LZ20130819

[seremtan]

that was outrageous, and so obviously bullshit

[feedback]

lol the UK, US, etc.

the saddest thing is that we all found out that nobody in either country is willing to defend our privacy. Any email server that has (literal) connections to the USA isn't private or safe. And it's the smallest news.

[losCHUNK]

I didn't find it that surprising, we knew that the po po could trace mobiles and intercept data and they'd likely have access to your information if they were eager enough. Even the dumbest shits of criminals have been avoiding these tactics by the police for years. In the London riots before any of the Snowden leaks came out the kids knew to use RIM instead of MMS cos it was attracting the police, I thought that was a pretty epic bit of social awareness for a bunch of little shits that caused the service to get taken down. This is without the bullshit terrorism laws n all, our government don't have much to say about it either not even to deny it.

It is a pretty shite state of affairs, but what's new ?. The governments job is to fuck us whilst the rest of us try to find a way around it . Think that's the way it's always been. Hopefully like the war on drugs and pirate radio they'll realise it's an awful lot of money for not a lot of return.

[seremtan]

an analogy: the prevalence of large-scale wars throughout the 20th century led to an arms race that meant there was only 66 years between the Wright Brothers and Apollo 11. it also led to an equally rapid development of ever more sophisticated encryption and computing technology

i wonder if the same rapid pace of adaptation will take place during the "cyber-wars"?

[MKJ]

there was only 66 years between the Wright Brothers and Apollo 11.

[DTS]

there was only 66 years between the Wright Brothers and Apollo 11.

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