is the riaa a terrorist organization?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:27 pm

look at all that bullshit...

http://sharenomore.blogspot.com/

Post by **MKJ** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:33 pm

:icon19:

Post by **PhoeniX** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:35 pm

Can't all you Americans revolt and burn their buildings down?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:36 pm

i just keep downloading to revolt...

Post by **4days** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:42 pm

btw, geoff - just wondering - have you let your political beliefs rub off on your kids? built them a bunker in the backyard to use in the event of a nuclear holocaust? taught them to maintain an automatic weapon?

Post by **MKJ** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:43 pm

its the right of an american to bear arms to protect his children

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:44 pm

what u just mentioned has nothing to do with my politics so no...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:45 pm

MKJ wrote:its the right of an american to bear arms to protect his children

tru though...

Post by **seremtan** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:35 pm

Fucking hell Geoff I hope you have time to eat, for the sake of your kids.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:37 pm

hey moron...u post twice as much as me so blow me...

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:27 pm

PhoeniX wrote:Can't all you Americans revolt and burn their buildings down?

or conversly, get jobs and pay for your music?

Post by **PhoeniX** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:28 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:Can't all you Americans revolt and burn their buildings down?
or conversly, get jobs and pay for your music?

When it's such a rip off?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:32 pm

lots of things are overly priced, but i don't go stealing them.

i believe that cd's should be $10 USD, not including hybrids. either way, most new releases can be had for less than <$15 USD easily.

Post by **PhoeniX** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:35 pm

If you go into a shop you'll get a CD for around £15 here, online maybe £10. That £10 I'd rather put toward diesel. That's just the way I've always been with music and apps.

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Post by **R00k** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:03 pm

The way I see it, if you steal the music you're stealing from the artists, and if you pay for the music, you're still helping to steal from the artists.

I download single songs more than anything, of which the good ones I'm willing to pay a buck or two for. But new albums around here are nearly 20 bucks, and I'm not paying that price unless I've heard and thoroughly enjoy the whole album. Fuck the RIAA as far as I'm concerned. Their approach toward this whole issue has only reinforced my image of them as greedy bastards who never had any regard for the artists to begin with.

I think a producing and distribution company run by the artists who have made it big and have the capital to invest in it would be the best solution to the whole problem, personally.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:14 pm

95% of the artists don't make shit off album sales...

Post by **4days** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:20 pm

R00k wrote:I think a producing and distribution company run by the artists who have made it big and have the capital to invest in it would be the best solution to the whole problem, personally.

aye, but impossible

Post by **R00k** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:38 pm

Why would it be impossible?

Post by **4days** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:50 pm

lots of reasons. not least of all the interaction such a company would need to have with the cabal that is the rest of the music industry and music retailers - it's possible that at some point a purely online distributor could spring up, but if that doesn't happen in the very near future then it never will - unless there's some drastic change in the way the world does business.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:40 pm

R00k wrote:The way I see it, if you steal the music you're stealing from the artists, and if you pay for the music, you're still helping to steal from the artists.

i'm not following you there...

R00k wrote: But new albums around here are nearly 20 bucks, and I'm not paying that price unless I've heard and thoroughly enjoy the whole album.

maybe you need to shop elsewhere. Best Buy, Virgin Records, Tower and even the Mom and Pops aren't $20 here. also, just like dvd's, get the album the first week of release. they're always <$15 here.

R00k wrote: Fuck the RIAA as far as I'm concerned. Their approach toward this whole issue has only reinforced my image of them as greedy bastards who never had any regard for the artists to begin with.

i agree with that. i hope nobody thinks i'm pro RIAA because i'm totally not. on the other hand, i'm not for illegal filesharing either. now, if cd's were released at $10 or less (again, hybrids/sacd not included), then i would certainly hope everybody would quit whining about the prices of music media.

Post by **R00k** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:54 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:The way I see it, if you steal the music you're stealing from the artists, and if you pay for the music, you're still helping to steal from the artists.

i'm not following you there...

I don't know how many stories I've heard from musicians who have made top-selling albums, only to find out later that they never even got any of the money from the album sales.
Granted, the artists should have been a lot more aggressive when they were negotiating their contract, but used car salesmen are still used car salesmen.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote: But new albums around here are nearly 20 bucks, and I'm not paying that price unless I've heard and thoroughly enjoy the whole album.
maybe you need to shop elsewhere. Best Buy, Virgin Records, Tower and even the Mom and Pops aren't $20 here. also, just like dvd's, get the album the first week of release. they're always <$15 here.

At Tower Records here, they're between 19 and 23 bucks normally, unless you catch some sort of promotion.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote: Fuck the RIAA as far as I'm concerned. Their approach toward this whole issue has only reinforced my image of them as greedy bastards who never had any regard for the artists to begin with.

i agree with that. i hope nobody thinks i'm pro RIAA because i'm totally not. on the other hand, i'm not for illegal filesharing either. now, if cd's were released at $10 or less (again, hybrids/sacd not included), then i would certainly hope everybody would quit whining about the prices of music media.

I don't whine about it, but to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't even mind paying the high prices they try to charge here, as long as I got to check out the album thoroughly before I paid for it, and the overwhelming majority of the profit went to the artists themselves.

Post by **Canidae** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:57 am

What I learned in this thread:

Gooffs boss don't give him enough allowance to buy CDs so he must steal them and take his frustrations out on the RIAA