I'm just going to leave this here...

[YourGrandpa]

Do you have this sticker on your door?

You stupid rednecks sure love your gun stickers.

[GONNAFISTYA]

So easy even grandma can shoot it.

[YourGrandpa]

Your Grandma is a redneck.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

[GONNAFISTYA]

Oh hey...Bob Costas is an unreasonable stupid stupid just like me...

BOB COSTAS: Well, you knew it was coming. In the aftermath of the nearly unfathomable events in Kansas City, that most mindless of sports clichés was heard yet again: something like this really puts it all in perspective. Well, if so, that sort of perspective has a very short shelf-life since we will inevitably hear about the perspective we have supposedly again regained the next time ugly reality intrudes upon our games.

Please, those who need tragedies to continually recalibrate their sense of proportion about sports would seem to have little hope of ever truly achieving perspective. You want some actual perspective on this?

Well, a bit of it comes from the Kansas City-based writer Jason Whitlock with whom I do not always agree, but who today said it so well that we may as well just quote or paraphrase from the end of his article.

“Our current gun culture,” Whitlock wrote, “ensures that more and more domestic disputes will end in the ultimate tragedy, and that more convenience-store confrontations over loud music coming from a car will leave more teenage boys bloodied and dead."

“Handguns do not enhance our safety. They exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing confrontation rather than avoiding it. In the coming days, Jovan Belcher’s actions, and their possible connection to football, will be analyzed. Who knows?"

“But here,” wrote Jason Whitlock, “is what I believe. If Jovan Belcher didn’t possess a gun, he and Kasandra Perkins would both be alive today.”

[YourGrandpa]

Yes, if we ban all guns there we never be any pointless/impulsive/vengeful killings ever again.

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol..yeah...perfect reasoning. It's no surprise this type of thinking comes from the same part of the world that thinks a séance and sacrificing a live chicken is a perfectly acceptable treatment for people with mental illness.

I'm just the messenger. Yell at Bob Costas.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

@ Gwamps

Not never, just way less. Does your mind really work that way?

Do you fail to see how it's easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife or car or baseball bat?

You are seriously one dumb fuck.

[GONNAFISTYA]

And NS is in gwamps camp on this one.

Lots of dumb fucks in the south.

[EtUL]

@ Gwamps

Not never, just way less. Does your mind really work that way?

Do you fail to see how it's easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife or car or baseball bat?

You are seriously one dumb fuck.

Remember that the conservative mind often sees things in black and white with little imagination for all the shades of gray in between.

[xer0s]

Oh, ok. Well that explains it...

[GONNAFISTYA]

Oh, ok. Well that explains it...

lol it actually does. It's actually PART OF THE ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF A CONSERVATIVE. Actually.

[YourGrandpa]

lol..yeah...perfect reasoning.

So that line of reasoning is somehow different than your crazy/stupid theory?

Get a clue stupid.

[xer0s]

Oh, ok. Well that explains it...

lol it actually does. It's actually PART OF THE ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF A CONSERVATIVE. Actually.

Dude, I respect your opinions. But what amazes me, is the way you go about presenting them. You're radical and rabid with your comments and opinions. It makes it difficult to have a discussion with you that doesn't end in "lol fuck you dummy". Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a moron. I wish you could step back and see how you look...

[Nightshade]

And NS is in gwamps camp on this one.

Lots of dumb fucks in the south.

Desperate troll is desperate. You can keep telling yourself that I'm "in gwamps camp" if it makes you feel better. Of course, you'd have to completely ignore many things I've posted in the past (none of which I'm talking about in this thread, but you need to think I am), as well as what I've said in this thread. But, let's not have facts get in the way of your self-righteous rant, OK?

As long as you can tell yourself that you've "humiliated" me and that I'm crazy, it's all going to be alright for you. YOU WIN! Still waiting for you to quote the post in this thread where I "completely lost my shit". It's not a tough question, is it?

You don't have to live your life like this, it's OK to admit you need help.

[YourGrandpa]

@ Gwamps

Not never, just way less. Does your mind really work that way?

Do you fail to see how it's easier to kill someone with a gun than it is with a knife or car or baseball bat?

You are seriously one dumb fuck.

Of course I get the point behind Bob's statement. But his reasoning is just as flawed as the statement I made. There is no guarantee that the murder rate would go down. (psychos will always find a way to kill people) Though I'm sure it would. However, would that number justify changing the constitution and taking rights away from millions of law abiding citizens? We also don't know that the rate of murder wouldn't go up because the armed criminals can easily kill unarmed citizens without worry... Guns are a part of the American culture and are not going anywhere. That's reality. So I suggest anyone who has a difference of opinion get comfortable with that.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Trying to explain reality to Brian Elame is like trying to teach calculus to a large igneous rock.

[MKJ]

So I suggest anyone who has a difference of opinion get comfortable with that.

I usually steer clear of these discussions, mostly because this right here is what it all boils down to.
I'm not for personal gun ownership, but I do accept that the American general public is.
I do also not agree with McDonalds as an accepted option for breakfast but I don't go around the internets arguing about it.

[GONNAFISTYA]

See....and they tell me that I'm the one being unreasonable...when I came out at the start saying I'd be unreasonable. They simply do not understand that I'm actively acting exactly like them.

It's fucking priceless.

[YourGrandpa]

All the name calling and difference of opinion aside. I understand the point you are tying to make. I also wish the world was a different place. Though I don't totally agree with your perception of all gun owners, I see your end goal.

Please help us come up with a reasonable plan to stop the mass production of firearms, ban their sale to the public, collect banned firearms from the general public and criminals. We know what you think is wrong. Now tells us how you would fix it.

[YourGrandpa]

Trying to explain reality to Brian Elame is like trying to teach calculus to a large igneous rock.

I get it. You're not bright enough to respond so you fling shit. Your monkey see, monkey do mentality is fun to watch though.

[Nightshade]

See....and they tell me that I'm the one being unreasonable...when I came out at the start saying I'd be unreasonable. They simply do not understand that I'm actively acting exactly like them.

It's fucking priceless.

The way you're acting in this thread is the way you ALWAYS act when discussing this topic. I guess that question wasn't so simple for you after all. Sad.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Yes. And it's the way you, gramps and a few other gun nuts on this board have acted since the first time gun laws have been discussed on this forum. In every case over the last DECADE in the way you, gramps (and sometimes Torm) will - without fail - feel the need to respond to every single comment that disagrees with you about owning a gun for protection. It has never crossed your empty head to budge on this utterly and clearly fucking retarded topic. You WILL NOT LISTEN to anyone who tells you you're totally bonkers about guns.

And then you bitch that I'm not listening...

I'm glad you finally figured out what I've been doing this whole thread.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Dude, I respect your opinions. But what amazes me, is the way you go about presenting them. You're radical and rabid with your comments and opinions. It makes it difficult to have a discussion with you that doesn't end in "lol fuck you dummy". Anyone that doesn't agree with you is a moron. I wish you could step back and see how you look...

In all seriousness....are you telling me that you CANNOT see what it is that I'm doing and you CANNOT see that I'm acting the way I am as a response to brain-deadedness?

I know EXACTLY how I look. The funny part is that none of you have...not for a long time.

[xer0s]

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