Should I place this order?

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:36 am

Psyche911 wrote:lol

I've never had a problem with my Wells Fargo credit card. Is that a good thing though?

I guess it is nice to see that it's well protected. Still annoying though.

Post by **ajerara** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:48 am

I have the Thermaltake Silent Boost, it is very quiet, should be fine if you are not OC'ing. I do have a bit of an OC going, I know if i had a better heatsink I'd have better temps on the OC, but without any overclocking they were fine.

Post by **stocktroll** » Mon May 02, 2005 5:34 am

cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper

Post by **Psyche911** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:11 am

stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper

Or don't.
I believe all the "value" ram has timings of 2.5-3-3-7 or higher (3-4-4-8 for some, ugh). The Athlon 64 platform is extremely sensitive to latencies. If you can do it, 2-2-2-5 timings are certainly worth the price premium.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon May 02, 2005 6:14 am

Psyche911 wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
Or don't.
I believe all the "value" ram has timings of 2.5-3-3-7 or higher (3-4-4-8 for some, ugh). The Athlon 64 platform is extremely sensitive to latencies. If you can do it, 2-2-2-5 timings are certainly worth the price premium.

Agreed, Value ram = shit

Post by **Deathshroud** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:35 pm

riddla wrote:yes, because your very limited experience is indicative of the entire name brand.

MSI are great. I dont say this because I built *one* and had minor issues with it either. I've built hundreds of PCs and MSI is easily top 3 for quality and stability.

WoW has already rotted your brain.

My opinion exactly. I used to work at a PC shop and our choice mobo's were MSI's. Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon May 02, 2005 2:49 pm

msi boards suck balls...

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:06 pm

stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper

I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).

Post by **stocktroll** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm

uh no,
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820145440
ive fooled around $300 top of the line ram sticks before and i see no justification for the price premium unless you really want to burn money for very little to no noticeable performance increase

Post by **DiscoDave** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm

Freakaloin wrote:msi boards suck balls...

Shows how much you know...

Post by **stocktroll** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:17 pm

bitWISE wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).

ok your choice dude

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:23 pm

stocktroll wrote:uh no,
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820145440
ive fooled around $300 top of the line ram sticks before and i see no justification for the price premium unless you really want to burn money for very little to no noticeable performance increase

Wow I can save $27 by getting memory that hasn't been fully tested. I actually do overclock my RAM since it only requires BIOS tweaks. The only reason I don't overclock my CPU is because I don't want to unlock it.

After reading a review I understand what you are saying...I'm just being "brand loyal."

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon May 02, 2005 3:35 pm

yay its been sorted finally. and the xp-90 fan is already on its way.

Post by **Psyche911** » Mon May 02, 2005 8:46 pm

This may be a stupid question, but you know the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan, right?

I have a San Ace 92mm, it's a little loud though. People get very impressive results with the Vantec Stealth 92mm fans (very quiet, and you will really only sacrifice a few degrees over a tornado which is totally unbearable).

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:03 pm

Deathshroud wrote:
riddla wrote:yes, because your very limited experience is indicative of the entire name brand.

MSI are great. I dont say this because I built *one* and had minor issues with it either. I've built hundreds of PCs and MSI is easily top 3 for quality and stability.

WoW has already rotted your brain.
My opinion exactly. I used to work at a PC shop and our choice mobo's were MSI's. Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.

Newegg..

GG!

Post by **Psyche911** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:20 pm

What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:21 pm

i've allways been a MSI fan, but they kind of hit a rut when they started loading there board's up with shit.. now ESPECALLY with the Neo Series they are king.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:43 pm

Psyche911 wrote:What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?

he said he wasent sure where i was getting them, i told him where.. stfu

Post by **Psyche911** » Mon May 02, 2005 10:48 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
Psyche911 wrote:What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?
he said he wasent sure where i was getting them, i told him where.. stfu

Christ SOAP. Not only did you misread it the first time. After I posted that, you posted that follow-up post to me while still not having read his original post right.

Read this again:

Deathshroud wrote:Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.

"Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap."

Not "Not sure where you got your crap."

P.S. stfu yourself

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon May 02, 2005 11:18 pm

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue May 03, 2005 2:12 am

Psyche911 wrote:This may be a stupid question, but you know the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan, right?

I do now...

Post by **Psyche911** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:42 am

Do you have a Frys nearby by any chance? They cary the Stealth line of fans (and lots others, but Stealth are good performance for the noise).

Post by **Bdw3** » Tue May 03, 2005 4:05 am

bitWISE wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).

It's all the same Samsung RAM. :icon14:

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue May 03, 2005 4:43 am

Estimated delivery date: May 5, 2005 by 4:30 pm

Psyche911 wrote:Do you have a Frys nearby by any chance? They cary the Stealth line of fans (and lots others, but Stealth are good performance for the noise).

That page says "Thermalright Fan (INCLUDED)"...Will that be ok to get things running? (No Frys but I can just order one)

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue May 03, 2005 5:13 pm

SOAPboy wrote:Stfu

Yeah, thats a much better response than looking up some reliable information to back your claim. If MSI makes such shit boards said info should be easy to find.