Religion Books

[MKJ]

fuck you memph0, that was exactly what I was going to post.


yes iceman321, trololol at the morons replying to a 3 year old thread, but the real q is, did you actually read one of those books?

[Κracus]

For example I did a lot of research on Christianity and propose a theory that a scholar named Eusebius came up with modern day christianity based on buddhist mythology/history. He believed it was better to tell a lie to stop violent people from doing violent things than to tell the truth.

You "propose a theory"? What the hell are you taling about? Eusebius has been known as the father of Christian history for centuries. His role in text and gospel selection is well documented.

Fucking acting like you jumped on the net and came up with a 1500 year old theory yourself lol

That just proves I'm not alone and that I'm right as usual.

[xer0s]

so in 3 years passed did xeros actually manage to read an book?

lol, read? A book?

[GONNAFISTYA]

The real question is: did you actually learn anything from the books you probably didn't read?

[xer0s]

I learned what I already knew. They're all crazy...

[0psys]

That just proves I'm not alone and that I'm right as usual.

Akin to proposing in 2012 that the Earth orbits the Sun.

[r3t]

You only need to read one book, and that is The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins

[MKJ]

hardly unbiased.

[LawL]

That just proves I'm not alone and that I'm right as usual.

Mostly it just proves that you're a 'tard.

[scared?]

Lol who uses the word 'tard' anymore?... Only time I hear this is from little kids and morons...

[Κracus]

That just proves I'm not alone and that I'm right as usual.

Akin to proposing in 2012 that the Earth orbits the Sun.

In all seriousness go ahead and prove the earth orbits the sun on your own without relying on previous studies and observations and come up with a theory you can say you came up with on your own because you pieced it together. Not because you copied it from someone else.

It literally took me months of research and reading boring ass journals thousands of years old. I did have access to these documents because of the internet but otherwise I didn't read current books to get to my conclusion I did so through my own detective work. To try and compare me to an idiot for tackling what could arguably be one of the most complex theocratic systems in our civilization is like me criticizing a rocket scientist over his design choices.

[LawL]

Lol who uses the word 'tard' anymore?... Only time I hear this is from little kids and morons...

You must hear it in your "home" a lot then.

[Eraser]

Akin to proposing in 2012 that the Earth orbits the Sun.

In all seriousness go ahead and prove the earth orbits the sun on your own without relying on previous studies and observations and come up with a theory you can say you came up with on your own because you pieced it together. Not because you copied it from someone else.

It literally took me months of research and reading boring ass journals thousands of years old. I did have access to these documents because of the internet but otherwise I didn't read current books to get to my conclusion I did so through my own detective work. To try and compare me to an idiot for tackling what could arguably be one of the most complex theocratic systems in our civilization is like me criticizing a rocket scientist over his design choices.

You're such a pompous moron

[0psys]

In all seriousness go ahead and prove the earth orbits the sun on your own without relying on previous studies and observations and come up with a theory you can say you came up with on your own because you pieced it together. Not because you copied it from someone else.

It literally took me months of research and reading boring ass journals thousands of years old. I did have access to these documents because of the internet but otherwise I didn't read current books to get to my conclusion I did so through my own detective work. To try and compare me to an idiot for tackling what could arguably be one of the most complex theocratic systems in our civilization is like me criticizing a rocket scientist over his design choices.

I think you misunderstand me. I'm not criticising you attempting the task, I'm calling you a liar. Name these "documents" you studied that were "thousands of years old". Why did you study them? What was your initial motivation? What language were they in? Given that they were "thousands of years old", you obviously weren't reading them in English. So I assume you read Latin.

Given that your background is clearly not in theology, or academia in general, why would you undertake "months of research"?

The Eusebius theory is well known among theologians, but coming up with that on your own, in theological terms, is principally equivalent to inventing Calculus. It's one of the main propositions advanced in theology and is so well accepted, given the thousands and thousands of words Eusebius himself wrote, that coming up with it yourself, while simultaneously failing to learn it had already been posited and accepted as fact during the course of your "research" is again, literally equivalent to reading Einstein's notes, somehow missing the reams of data on Relativity, and then discovering Relativity.

Then, obviously, logging on to Quake3World and saying "Hey, guys, I've got this theory that observations differ relative to the velocities of the observers. Oh, also, I reckon gravity is like a sheet or something, and the speed of light is invariant!"

What I'm saying is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to have the theory you have apparently discovered yourself, because it's not possible to study any Christian history without immediately learning Eusebius' and Paul's contribution to the creation of the Christian religion.

Stop it.

[Κracus]

I actually only came across Eusebius as I was reading the translated journal Flavius wrote regarding the history of the jews.

I started by looking at the first mentions of Jesus Christ because I don't believe he ever existed so I started my research based on what I suspected. I read through several historical accounts from historians I could find that existed during the timeframe Jesus existed. Flavius Josephus was the only one that mentioned Jesus Christ. He originally wrote them in hebrew so I was reading translated texts as you indicated but I didn't only read his. I read a lot of others of that period to see if I could find anything on JC.

Once I did with Flavius, again I had no knowledge of this historian prior to me looking for historians during this period.

There is a difference between what you're saying I did and how I did it. Once upon a time, you would have had to learn hebrew, travel to locations where these texts were kept etc... that's what made this so difficult and such a feat originally which is what I think you're simply disregarding. It's like you think the work should be just as difficult today however it isn't, simply because of the internet.

All I'm saying I did though was I found out about Flavius Josephus not because of someone elses research but because I found him, read his journal, along with many others. This was around 2004 btw so if you're asking me the names of those journals I can't say I recall. In fact I don't recall much of the information I researched. The main bits I recall is information on Eusebius, how he used the journal written by Flavius and what I suspect his motives were.

From there I recall something about a french king and the knights templar, crusades and how modern banking evolved from this etc...

That's the short version of how I did it and isn't at all as ridiculous as you make it sound.


edit: As an fyi, I actually read more than 1 translation of the journals of Flavius Josephus as there's some contradiction on what he's actually saying vs the litteral hebrew translation. I recall some things that may have been interpreted in different ways by Eusebius that may not neccessarily be what Flavius was saying.

[Tsakali]

lol 0psys why are you even bothering?

[0psys]

"Er, well, see, there's this guy, Flavius, and he wrote some stuff, I don't remember any of it, but there's a French guy, like, a king or something, oh, and the Knights Templar, and then something about banking".

Fuck me...

[Captain]

All I'm saying I did though was I found out about Flavius Josephus not because of someone elses research but because I found him

How was he? Did he still remember seremtan?

[Eraser]

I think calling Kracus a pompous moron is far more efficient.

[seremtan]

what is this thread

[MKJ]

kracus ending another test.

[Doombrain]

How was he? Did he still remember seremtan?

lol