I can appreciate some of what you're saying, and scratching my head at others, but I honestly don't care about human exploration at the moment. It's been more than obvious for a long time that any contact humanity might have with an extraterrestrial lifeform will be through a robot built by us on Earth. I don't care if we set up a base on Mars or any of that other depressing, dystopian future stuff you're talking about.Insensatez wrote:correct!Eraser wrote:What I think Insensatez was trying to say is that thinking humans could travel to Europa is more arrogant than thinking humans could colonize Mars.
I was following the conversation, interesting topic and a huge experimemt for science. Great pictures were posted of what the rover saw, they have managed to make the rover take a 120 degree turn, which scientist were all exited about.
My points are:
1) Big projects like sending a rover across the solar system to a designated location with several measurement instruments cost alot of money. We humans, specifically the ones who govern nations) on the other hand are far more interested in taking care of our own shit (fighting wars over resources, land, some involving some genocide because we just don't like the other ones). We will keep spending dollars on things like this, until we run out of energy resources or ways to turn these resources into energy needed for our homes, commerce and industry.
2)If we do have substantial finances to support a project so we could land some humans on Mars and build a base there, and lets say we find a lifeform, even on mars, it's probably not going to happen because by the time we get there, there won't be enough resources left to get us there and the effects of global warming will be off the scale by then, so we would be back to step 1, solving our own shit
3) If it weren't be for the heavy pollution that started in the industrial age and the, again money based religious biggotery for building their own wealth and building more places of worship to convert more people to convince them that the way of the lord is the only way, instead of what (truth given, a minority of scientist and free thinkers) were saying over 200 years ago to invest in the future and not in the fairy tales of some books some blokes wrote 5000-ish to 1500-ish years ago, we would be alot further now, investing money in what is truely important, perhaps we already would have a base on Mars by now.
4) replying to GKY sub par reply reply to me that I think all living things need the sun as a form of battery for sustaining life, you do realise that there have been bacteria found Who live in craters of volcanoes , living in an environment where the main composition of found matter is sulfur
5) Same goes for Obsidian stating that wherever there's water, it's plausible that there may be some form of life (see 3)
I'd simply be happy with the knowledge that it was out there. Send a probe that can map the fucker and determine once and for all if there's an ocean there, then if they find one send another probe that drills a hole and looks for 3 titted mermaids. I'd rather spend the money on that instead. I have no illusions about humanity's current ability to plant their foot on a planet in our solar system (let alone an extra-solar planet) being pretty dim. But you're thinking with current economics in mind. Perhaps economic systems will change in the future when we're focusing our work on actually fixing problems, instead of creating them? Maybe in a million years when humanity evolves into a more intelligent being that can actually accomplish it?
People need to get over the fact that alot of humanity's great achievements will not happen in their lifetime, so stop sounding so disappointed.
And before you smoke a bowl and ask, I say I'd be happy to guess that humanity will eventually visit Europa with boots on the ground, with mermaids selling bottles of that famous water obsidian was talking about.
that I was checking on and what better place for the truth but here 
Insensatez
I will read more but I'll be busy for 3 or 4 weeks 
, don't let some of the retards here even make you apologise for asking a question, especially if they look like/are Doombrain, who is obviously not on top of any topic he has an opinion on, cannot admit his own mistakes, and is suffering from a severe case of Down Syndrome. I think his wife/nurse thinks for him.
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