Walking Dead Season 2

[seremtan]

shit shit shit shit

everything is shit when seen through eyeliner

[4days]

One of my favourite scenes from any film ever. This is on par with the helicopter bit in Apocalypse Now:



Pity the rest of the film is shit but oh well.

agreed on both counts
the rest of the movie is about as much fun as trapping your finger in a door, but the intro was excellent - the way it moves from a family meal to chaos, carnage, terror and flight in a matter of minutes is brilliantly handled.

on intros, that made me google this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMnAbII2s8 (the hidden, 1987 - jump to 0.27 for the start of the movie).

just saw the last episode and have to whine along with everyone else - this show needs to hire an actual tv writer, a writer who's done soap operas or something. feel like i have to watch it because the comics are so awesome, but it just makes me rage at the screen. i don't care if they change all the characters or fuck with the mythos, just don't fuck with the basics of making tv drama. there are saturday morning cartoons with better developed characters and group dynamics than this - and they manage it in 15 minutes with a few lines of dialog instead of eleventy thousand hours of NOTHING HAPPENING while everyone sits around smelling their fingers and bleating about the feelings they're apparently having.

but there's bound to be another writer shuffle for the next season - and maybe now that michonne's turned up, things will get better.

[GONNAFISTYA]

you're a clueless moron.

Ok...then clarify how something that is mindless should show choreography. Better yet, explain WHY something that is mindless should show choreography.

Perhaps you don't know what the word "mindless" means?

[Captain]

One of my favourite scenes from any film ever. This is on par with the helicopter bit in Apocalypse Now:



Pity the rest of the film is shit but oh well.

Zombieland Rule #1 saved him.

[phantasmagoria]

you're a clueless moron.

Ok...then clarify how something that is mindless should show choreography. Better yet, explain WHY something that is mindless should show choreography.

Perhaps you don't know what the word "mindless" means?

The problem is that some of the actors playing zombies are mindless and some of them aren't. Only some of them feel pain, only some of them focus with their eyes and their movement dymanics are completely random. Watch the first video I posted. Just because they're zombies doesn't mean they don't need proper direction. In fact BECAUSE they're zombies and because they're mindless they must absolutely have strict direction. The whole point of zombies is that there's no individuality, they're a hoard with no personality or identity.

You're a fucking idiot and I'm not going to discuss this any further with you.

[GONNAFISTYA]

The problem is that some of the actors playing zombies are mindless and some of them aren't. Only some of them feel pain, only some of them focus with their eyes and their movement dymanics are completely random. Watch the first video I posted. Just because they're zombies doesn't mean they don't need proper direction. In fact BECAUSE they're zombies and because they're mindless they must absolutely have strict direction. The whole point of zombies is that there's no individuality, they're a hoard with no personality or identity.

You're a fucking idiot and I'm not going to discuss this any further with you.

lol you've been sniffing too much codpiece

You didn't even attempt to answer my question, you just repeated what you posted previously.

"The whole point of zombies??"

lol dude you take this shit way too serious

[[xeno]Julios]

phanty, how are you able to infer mindlessness and pain responses of the walkers? They all seem to function according to the same basic rules, I don't sense the inconsistencies between individual walkers that you seem to do.

[Tsakali]

yeah phanty you dropped the ball on that one. I don't see anything wrong with slight variations in their behavior... after all who's to say how zombiefication affects each indivisual? how about how long they have been turned? I don't see a rulebook anywhere...

"The whole point of zombies is that there's no individuality"
you just made that up, I can tell by how little sense it makes.

Now I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt. They may very well suck at choreography, but I don't see anything wrong with the end result.

[seremtan]

emotions sure are running high over a tv show

anyone would think apple had released a new product or something

[4days]

i still don't understand the point of trolling over things like this, but jules is good at it.

lol you've been sniffing too much codpiece

You didn't even attempt to answer my question, you just repeated what you posted previously.

"The whole point of zombies??"

lol dude you take this shit way too serious

2/10 - wilfully ignorant comeback and finished with copping out. that was wretched, like watching you try to run.

phanty, how are you able to infer mindlessness and pain responses of the walkers? They all seem to function according to the same basic rules, I don't sense the inconsistencies between individual walkers that you seem to do.

7/10 - familiarity, wide-eyed inquisitiveness, changing the focus of the argument. i can imagine someone responding to this seriously before they've had a chance to think it through.

back on topic, phant is right. as a propmaker, he's probably going to be looking at anything that uses make-up/sfx more closely than most folks (especially after that bit with the balsa-wood fence), but there were four of us watching this at our house yesterday and we all noticed how inconsistent the extras were too. now that i've actually thought about it, think it might be partly because they were trying to get shots that matched the comics (and they did, very well) - but then maybe carried on filming from those positions instead of using their 'trained' zombies and getting all the other extras that they just brought in to play the herd out of the way. it would probably have added half a day to filming to do that - hopefully next season their budget will go up again - and hopefully they'll get rid of that whining bitch with the short hair, even the shape of her head annoys me.

[phantasmagoria]

[seremtan]

back on topic, phant is right. as a propmaker, he's probably going to be looking at anything that uses make-up/sfx more closely than most folks (especially after that bit with the balsa-wood fence), but there were four of us watching this at our house yesterday and we all noticed how inconsistent the extras were too. now that i've actually thought about it, think it might be partly because they were trying to get shots that matched the comics (and they did, very well) - but then maybe carried on filming from those positions instead of using their 'trained' zombies and getting all the other extras that they just brought in to play the herd out of the way. it would probably have added half a day to filming to do that - hopefully next season their budget will go up again - and hopefully they'll get rid of that whining bitch with the short hair, even the shape of her head annoys me.

you sir are a master

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol...a "troll rating system"

[Transient]

Carl is starting to irritate me. He's the cause of all their problems. If he hadn't fucked about in the woods, that zombie never would have gotten loose and ripped the old dude's stomach open. If he hadn't shot Shane and just told his father to turn around so he could stab him, the huge horde wouldn't have heard the shot and would have walked right past the house. If he hadn't delivered that horribly forced and awkward "Do it, Dad, do it," line in the barn when his father was about to shoot the prisoner, the whole mess would have been done with and Shane never would have had an opportunity to lure his buddy into the woods. Plus he keeps wandering into the middle of conversations he's meant to never hear, despite being told to stay somewhere else. Little fucker.

Despite the fact that there were countless problems with the last few episodes, I'm glad to see it picking back up and see them get on with it. I've been tempted to give up on the show here and there, but something keeps dragging me back. Maybe it's like what others have said: zombie shows are few and far between, so I should lower my standards and be happy there's one on that's even half decent. Plus it has the potential to be even better, given the source material. Here's hoping.

This show sucks.
Why dont we drive around and deplete all our ammo, let two people die and then leave..instead of just leaving when you see 300 walkers coming from a half mile away. Then that dipshit who pulled the RV up to the barn, then parked it..then looked out the door...no big deal. Sharpshooters hanging out the window in moving car headshot after headshot.
Loved the dramatic barn burning farm abandoning music, I'm really going to miss that place...entire season shot in 1 location, I was hoping for another 13 eps at the farm...rofl.
I cant stop watching this trainwreck, I seriously hope everyone dies except Daryl.

Every time they pulled the trigger it was a wasted bullet, even the perfect headshots which seemed to occur with every shot. Apparently becoming a zombie makes your brain a super magnet as well as give you an insatiable appetite for human flesh. They're in cars, FFS, just drive around.

They really really need to get someone to choreograph the infected. There's a great bit in the 28 Weeks Later behind the scenes where they show how they prime all the zombies before shooting them so they have an overall homogeneous character, in Walking Dead they just do whatever the fuck they want. Some amble, some jog, some flail their arms and some are inanimate, some feel pain and others don't, some show signs of intelligence where as others are autonomic. it's a fucking shambles.

To me, that seemed to be the whole point. Each zombie has their own traits. The zombies that have been dead for less time probably have more energy left from not needing to eat, and can afford to flail about, whereas the older ones are worn out and simply can't raise their arms as frequently. We've seen in the past that fresh zombies still exhibit a teensy bit of intelligence, like looking into the eyes of their target, so that explains why some are smarter than others in a horde; we just didn't see them recently get turned. The feeling pain bit, however, I agree with. No zombie should ever wince.

[Plan B]

Bob Marley would roll over in his grave (or was he cremated/bonged?)
Anyways, judge not lest ye be judged, and all that shit.

[seremtan]

bob marley recently criticised the donuts in heaven

there wasn't enough jammin

[Plan B]

[MKJ]

why he complaining, him belly full.