What is it with recent albums...

Post by **Don Carlos** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:41 pm

Listen 2 none pop shit then

Post by **Eraser** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:44 pm

Yeah that's with Limp Bizkit and Korn too.
"Fuck" in almost every song... :icon9:

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:45 pm

green day is nysnc joke music...jesus christ moron grow the fuck up...seriously...

question...do u think gd is punk music?

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:00 pm

Green Day play pop music. In fact, they play fucking great pop music.

And yes, I have noticed that too. I think artists like to think that the individual songs on an album are parts of a greater whole, not just separate little stories.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:01 pm

i'm not sure if you can totally blame the artists (not that you were doing so directly) for "filler". record labels and the industry are moving towards selling singles rather than albums thanks to digital mediums and the increasing online store fronts. the day of the "complete album" is coming to and end (if it hasn't so already) from most every signed artist, imo.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:02 pm

def lepard were better musicians then green day...twice the talent too...and yet they both suck...time to grow up kids...

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:05 pm

def leppard?, lol geoff, you suck at trolling

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:05 pm

p.s. i won't even get started on the god-awful recording techniques used today on top of the sad fact that most of the younger generations music is compressed.

Post by **Fender** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:07 pm

Well... Green Day has called American Idiot a "rock opera." There's supposed to be a story through the entire album.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:09 pm

Memphis wrote:
Don Carlos wrote:Listen 2 none pop shit then
Whether i'm listening to it or not has no relation to the question

I could ask why fat birds eat so much, or lemmings jump off a cliff even though I couldn't care less, it's a topic of conversation

Because manufactured bands are losing idea's or going for themes?
No idea, but listen 2 NIN or Queens of the Stone Age n u never get the problem?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:09 pm

Fender wrote:Well... Green Day has called American Idiot a "rock opera." There's supposed to be a story through the entire album.

i've been meaning to pick this one up. didn't know they deemed it such though. i'm sure it's not as much a rock opera as Queensryche's Operation: Mindcrime (which was brilliant), but that certainly intrigues me more to purchase it.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:12 pm

Don Carlos wrote: No idea, but listen 2 NIN or Queens of the Stone Age n u never get the problem?

the list doesn't grow too much beyond that i'm afraid.

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:12 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i'm not sure if you can totally blame the artists (not that you were doing so directly) for "filler". record labels and the industry are moving towards selling singles rather than albums thanks to digital mediums and the increasing online store fronts. the day of the "complete album" is coming to and end (if it hasn't so already) from most every signed artist, imo.

Actually, the singles sales here in Sweden has plummeted the past couple of years, so they've had to lower the standards for when your single has sold gold or platinum several times.

Album sales are still going ok though, and some indie labels are going very well, with rising sales. Seems like the mainstream has (rightfully?) seen what the big labels are up to and started downloading all their stuff, and while the alternative/indie people are downloading too, it has made it easier for smaller bands to reach an audience who, believe it or not, go and buy their records after discovering and downloading their stuff from the net.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:22 pm

Grudge wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i'm not sure if you can totally blame the artists (not that you were doing so directly) for "filler". record labels and the industry are moving towards selling singles rather than albums thanks to digital mediums and the increasing online store fronts. the day of the "complete album" is coming to and end (if it hasn't so already) from most every signed artist, imo.
Actually, the singles sales here in Sweden has plummeted the past couple of years, so they've had to lower the standards for when your single has sold gold or platinum several times.

Album sales are still going ok though, and some indie labels are going very well, with rising sales. Seems like the mainstream has (rightfully?) seen what the big labels are up to and started downloading all their stuff, and while the alternative/indie people are downloading too, it has made it easier for smaller bands to reach an audience who, believe it or not, go and buy their records after discovering and downloading their stuff from the net.

Single sales i'm sure have increased in most countries with the advent of the online music front. but, again, that alone will shape the future releases of albums by artists/labels putting in more filler.

i'm not by any means slamming the ease of obtaining music, just the ramifications of buying singles. i have come across alot of different genres that i've liked so much that my CD collection has grown alot more in the past 5 years than the previous 5 thanks to broadband.

i'm also a big supporter of indie.

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:23 pm

rappers do it the most

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:24 pm

bitWISE wrote:rappers do it the most

alot of rap is nothing but synchronized bitching.

Post by **Mat Linnett** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:36 pm

I think it's marketing & branding in action.
A lot of modern pop is vacuous and fleeting, so they have to come up with SOMETHING for the ADD crowd to latch on to.

I've also noticed a weird one in pop videos; a LOT of recent videos have stopped the music halfway through for some dramatic interlude or another.
Some feeble attempt at anti-piracy maybe?

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:13 pm

http://mindlessselfindulgence.com/inside/music.php

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:00 pm

Freakaloin wrote:green day is nysnc joke music...jesus christ moron grow the fuck up...seriously...

question...do u think gd is punk music?

Audioslave :lol:

Any, you yanks have no fucking clue what punk is. We made and killed punk in about 2 years, and a bunch of unnecessarily sincere yanks didn't realize it was dead and decided to make an "underground scene" about it and suck all the fun out of it for the next 20 years :lol: You're living in the past Jeff, must be 'cos you're old.

It's even sadder 'cos you lot did a good job on New Wave. MOVE ON!

Post by **SOAPboy** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:12 pm

Geebs wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:green day is nysnc joke music...jesus christ moron grow the fuck up...seriously...

question...do u think gd is punk music?
Audioslave :lol:

Any, you yanks have no fucking clue what punk is. We made and killed punk in about 2 years, and a bunch of unnecessarily sincere yanks didn't realize it was dead and decided to make an "underground scene" about it and suck all the fun out of it for the next 20 years :lol: You're living in the past Jeff, must be 'cos you're old.

It's even sadder 'cos you lot did a good job on New Wave. MOVE ON!

So, crass isnt punk then?

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:16 pm

As anyone knows, NOTHING is ever punk enough to be punk to everyone. The only real punk band plays in a soundproofed bunker, and they're all stone deaf so even they have never heard themselves play. In fact they've never even all turned up at the same time, none of them has an instrument and they never wrote any songs. They don't even have a name, that's how punk they are.

Post by **Pext** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:23 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
bitWISE wrote:rappers do it the most
alot of rap is nothing but synchronized bitching.

as rap is mostly a word battle this is obvious.

Post by **Pext** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:25 pm

Geebs wrote:As anyone knows, NOTHING is ever punk enough to be punk to everyone. The only real punk band plays in a soundproofed bunker, and they're all stone deaf so even they have never heard themselves play. In fact they've never even all turned up at the same time, none of them has an instrument and they never wrote any songs. They don't even have a name, that's how punk they are.

funny enough there are such bands

Post by **bitWISE** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:01 am

SOAPboy wrote:http://mindlessselfindulgence.com/inside/music.php

I'm fucking pissed I missed their concert last week

.

the white the walls, the white the walls, the white the walls, plaster
never catch on....the white the walls plater...
never catch on, you always have to do it with a big long john, the white the walls plaster
it never catch on
we writing in pink
with the walls
and the balls
and the fradle
and the pink
and the walls
with the stripes
and the fradles
cuz the white walls never catch on!

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:24 am

Pext wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
bitWISE wrote:rappers do it the most
alot of rap is nothing but synchronized bitching.
as rap is mostly a word battle this is obvious.

no, actually it's not. (obvious).