This seriously makes me angry

[bitWISE]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/0 ... 76544.html

I don't even know what to say...

[menkent]

i was also more disappointed by that than i thought i still could be. i guess i'm not as jaded as i thought.

[EtUL]

I bet you all wish there was still a republican in office now. I do, the crazy lefties were absolutely nothing compared to the crazy right that's come out in the 8 months Obama has been President.

It's hard to take them seriously.

[4days]

It's like the right wing blogosphere went home, dosed themselves with mescaline and sat around watching History Channel reruns on mute while Pink Floyd's The Wall played in the background.

[seremtan]

lol

i was never much of an obama fan, but this is some butthurt wacky shit. it's comforting to know that somewhere out there there's a nation whose media is even more worthless than britain's

[LawLess]

Hahaha, as always Obama, or more precisely president of United States, wastes people's time.

[GONNAFISTYA]

If President Obama reminded people tomorrow to brush between meals, thousands of people would allow their teeth to rot right out of their heads, because OMGZ TEH SOCIALISM!

[MKJ]

I but in reality its

[scared?]

our fucking kids school called and left a prerecorded msg about this....saying some teachers will not show it and our kids don't have to watch it if they don't want to etc...pathetic...

[+JuggerNaut+]

lol, brainwashing. just like the pledge of the allegiance in elementary school. just like it.

[Plan B]

I don't think Americans are inherently stupid, at least not more so than the rest of the world population.
But I do wonder why they let themselves get riled up so easily against a president, who, in my opinion, is genuinely trying to help.
Naive much? Maybe, but I haven't seen Obama pull Bushian shit, serving his and his buttbuddies' interest, yet.
How can so many people not realise that what's labelled as 'evil socialism' (which actually is pretty normal, rational, and mild policy, from a European standpoint) will actually benefit their own situation?

[scared?]

But I do wonder why they let themselves get riled up so easily...

talk radio...

[Unisaw]

I just came to post this topic and found your post. I was also dumbstruck.


"Mark Steyn, a Canadian author and political commentator, speaking on the Rush Limbaugh show on Wednesday, accused Mr. Obama of trying to create a cult of personality, comparing him to Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong-il, the North Korean leader."

WTF - they left out Hitler!


I read Karl Rove's editorial in the WSJ yesterday (sorry - subscription req'd) and came to the conclusion that he (and all conservatives) are just lost and struggling to bring Obama down. Rove is on a lifelong mission to restore his (and Bush's) reputation which is now sealed:

"August was the worst month of Barack Obama's presidency. And he seems to know it..." WTF - how does Karl arrive at this conclusion

"He has already had the budget-busting $787 billion stimulus package" To solve a crisis delivered to the nation after 8 years of Bush

"Obama's problems are legion. To start with, the president is focusing on health care when the economy and jobs are nearly everyone's top issue" Damned if you do and damned...

It's just sad. Let's just hand the keys to the car to Rush Limbaugh and get it over with.

[menkent]

But I do wonder why they let themselves get riled up so easily against a president, who, in my opinion, is genuinely trying to help.

umm, he's black?
people forget all the wacky shit clinton was constantly accused of as president. right-wing shadow groups bribing state troopers to claim he'd used them to set up booty calls? people took that crap completely seriously.

[scared?]

yeah it's all about him being black...and the morons won't even admit to themselves...

[MKJ]

and he preaches what most americans fear most; 'change'

[Don Carlos]

LOL

[plained]

yeah it's all about him being black...and the morons won't even admit to themselves...

i totally agree

i seen alot alot of it hidden in peeps so-called critisisims of him

[Ryoki]

The guns at townhalls, the obama hitler/socialist and the healthcare death panels stuff is all part of a smear campaign and it's working. The whole thing is purposely so vile and bizarre that the reaction of the average person is one of stunned confusion.

Many people make the mistake of thinking these people can be reasoned with, this is wrong.

[bitWISE]

I actually spoke about this with a friend of mine last night. Average 20 something girl who doesn't care about politics. Turns out she actually believed all these myths about complete government takeover, government control over approval processes for treatment, stuff like that. I'm curious how many people viewing this issue from the sidelines are actually taking those false viewpoints because "if they're on the news they must be valid concerns".

[obsidian]

The U.S. has this stigma against socialism, a remnant of the propagandistic messages imparted upon during the Cold War against the USSR, Cuba, China and other Communist countries. This fear is still deeply ingrained in U.S. culture, so much so that even mentioning that something may lean towards being socialistic is enough to get people to grab their pitchforks and flaming torches. So I find it interesting when I mention to people that Star Trek, the American TV show that envisions a united humanity in all "American" ideology, actually envisions the people of Earth living in a Utopian Socialism. Point is, many people have a lot of misconceptions about socialized government programs and confuse it with Leninist Communism or even Fascism while forgetting that many basic programs in the U.S. are socialized, like education, utilities, libraries, national defence, police and fire departments. Yet you don't get many people complaining about the libraries containing only the books they want you to read, and I don't think many people would think it's a good idea to privatize national defence.

[seremtan]

i think the problem with the media in america is just an extreme version of the problem throughout the world: people simply not getting what media is and does

point #1, it's a business. what gets printed is what's most likely to sell papers. this results in point #2: newspapers/network news tend to focus on unusual or strange events, i.e. changes, or rare occurences, as a result of which (point #3) people begin to believe that the unusual = the usual, which is how various kinds of scare story go viral

it occurred to me that, in many ways, even a less than 100% accurate source like wikipedia reflects reality better than the average newspaper

(for example, ever noticed how often news stories use phrases like "officials said...", "US officials said..." etc? in wikipedia something like that would either have to be backed up with a citation or find the superscript [weasal words] tacked on the end of it by an editor, to highlight the fact that the source is dubious - which implies that wikipedia editors hold article authors to higher standards than those to which newspaper editors hold their journalists...)

[R00k]

Sorry, this probably isn't the right thread for this, but I thought it was funny and couldn't resist posting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtmgQ2W3lhM

[R00k]

Also, back on topic, maybe this?

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/commen ... s_are_not/

Or maybe they think that, since they have completely demonized Obama, then their kids will do the opposite of whatever he says?

[bitWISE]

Sorry, this probably isn't the right thread for this, but I thought it was funny and couldn't resist posting it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtmgQ2W3lhM