To be honest, I couldn't give a rats arse about Jacob at the moment, or if the statue is the one we saw before (because its a different shape/design/position), or if the bomb worked, or whatever...
I just want to know that after killing off one of the best people on the show (Dan), have they really just killed off Juliette...? Because if they have then I'm going to be megga pissed... What next? Kill off Desmond...? Which reminds me, why hasn't Desmond had a huge roll this season? I was hoping he was gonna take the "leader" role
Oh well, at least I got to see somebody kick the shit out of Jack. I really have grown to fucking hate that character...
The "man in black" at the beginning is a human representation of the smoke monster. It was the smoke monster who took the form of Ben's daughter and told him to do whatever Locke instructed him to do and thus it was the smoke monster who got Ben to kill Jacob...finding the "loophole" (as if the plot doesn't have enough of those).
At the very beginning when Jacob asked him,"You want some fish?" and the guy replied,"Thank you, I just ate" tells me the smoke monster just finished running through the jungle knocking over trees and making clunky ratcheting sounds as it chased misplaced polar bears for dinner.....or sumthin.
I must say though...any television series that has one or two "recap specials" every season to get their audience up to speed is the shambling remains of a good idea gone awry. Not to put too fine a point on it I'll bastardize Stellan Skarsgard in his opinion of Dan Brown's (DaVinci Code/Angels and Demons) writing: "I think Dan Brown is a terribly bad writer, but he has cliffhangers after every chapter which makes you continue reading," he said. "It's like eating peanuts at a bar. You don't like them, but you keep on eating them anyway."
That is Lost in a nutshell..if you'll pardon the pun.
Note when Jacob died, he stated "they're coming", to which I think he referred to the Oceanic 6. The "man in black" / Locke, seemed concerned over this revelation. That said, it's been the objective of some dead people to bring the Oceanic 6 back to the island, Christian for example. Based on that, I think both the man in black and Jacob have the ability to control the souls of the dead, in that respect I think Jacob and the man in black are equally powerful but oppositely pitched. Jacob brought Locke back to life after his fall, and man in black has done so also, but to kill jacob. The events of the past are the events of the past, the man in black would have been aware that the oceanic 6 were on the island in 1970, and would be aware that they had disappeared during the year following the incident. Wether he was aware that they were about to be transported to the exact moment after Jacob's death is unknown. I think the smoke monster is just a security system that cleanses the island of inpure souls. If you repent your sins to the beast, he allows you to live, if not, he kills you. Why would the man in black have motive to kill Eko? Or the plane pilot?
So this leaves us with 2 super-dudes, almost godlike, living on an island with a smoke monster, feuding over humanity and wether human conscience is a good thing or a bad one. Man in black has now used the loophole of humanity, and the selfish desire of human emotion to kill Jacob but I think Jacob's plan is to use other, more positive aspects of human character, ie: compassion etc, to "fight the good fight". All the events to this date have been the result of this war, and both gods have been trying to get one up on each other for this final confrontation.
It's interesting that you picked up on the offer of food to "man in black" from Jacob... I think that the man in black may represent Esau. Esau was the older brother of Jacob in the Old testament, and in this story, Jacob traded Esau his bloodright for a bowl of food when Esau was starving. As a result, Esau and Jacob spent the rest of their lives fighting, with Esau trying to kill Jacob.
Jackal wrote:Ben and Richard talked extensively about Jacob in Season 4.
The statue is definitely of egyptian origin and is most likely to be Taweret - a goddess who has four toes, carries two ankhs, and is the goddess of fertility.
The show is definitely moving in an egyptian direction. Another thing to think about is Richard Alperts name possibly being a connection with Ra.
In Egyption myth Ra and Horus (Horace) were Gods at odds with one another but were eventually merged.
I'm not really going anywhere with this. Just throwing out some other connections.
they'll probably just cop out and say the island is atlantis.
The Rival found a loophole. Jacob expected it. I'm sure the significance of touching all the other losties will be explored in S6 and "they're coming" no doubt refers to those oceanic 6 people. Jacob probably found a loophole of his own.
[quote="GONNAFISTYA"]You might as well have complained about the Mona Lisa right after Michelangelo painted the first two strokes of his brush.[/quote]
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I completely forget....what happened to the black guy and his son?
And why aren't they supposed to return to the island like everyone else?
black guy is dead! he blew up on the freighter after he had "paid his dues" to the island.
walt is back in the real world and all big now. his storyline is probably over.
[quote="GONNAFISTYA"]You might as well have complained about the Mona Lisa right after Michelangelo painted the first two strokes of his brush.[/quote]
In Egyptian mythology, Taweret (also spelled Taurt, Tuat, Taueret, Tuart, Ta-weret, Tawaret, and Taueret, and in Greek, Θουέρις "Thoeris" and Toeris). Her name means (one) who is great. When paired with another deity, she became the demon-wife of Apep, the original god of evil. Since Apep was viewed as residing below the horizon, and only present at night, evil during the day then was envisaged as being a result of Taweret's malfeasance.
Smokey during the day and Jacob during the night? Nobody has ever seen Jacob in the day on the Island...AMIRITE?!
I thought we were meant to assume the other guy (not Jacob) was the smoke monster, Christian, Yemi, Alex, Ben's mom, etc.
When Locke saw the monster in season 1 and it was "beautiful" that was really "other dude" scanning Locke and deciding he was a chump who could be easily manipulated. He did the same with Eko but eventually Eko "overcame" and that's why he killed him.
kate has the most beautiful face by quite a margin, but she has the body of a 13 year old boy. still would, obviously.
ana lucia had the best arse, with charlotte a close second. juliet & young ms hawking have the best rack.
lol ladtalk ftw
[quote="GONNAFISTYA"]You might as well have complained about the Mona Lisa right after Michelangelo painted the first two strokes of his brush.[/quote]
More theories - the dude in black could not kill jacob, hence manipulating Ben. Ben needed to kill the leader as the dude in black could not do it, but needed Locke's form to get access to Jacob. Dude in black can take the form of dead people (Ben's daughter, Eko's brother, Doc's father and finally Locke) Ben needed to be the one to kill Jacob as once again the dude in black could not do it, hence the loop hole.
