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Charles turns 200 years young today. :up:

Unfortunately a poll came out a couple days ago that states only 4 out of 10 people believe in evolution. In my opinion, this is a huge blow to the human race. 150 years after the idea was born and not even half of us believe it. Sad really...
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"while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36 percent don’t have an opinion either way”
:dork:

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/11/darwin-200/

Those poor "24 percenters" are beyond hope...and they still love Dubya.
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I hate how the question is even framed. Evolution is not something you believe or don't believe. That's like asking "Do you believe the sky is blue?" You understand it or you don't.
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The news said that the 39% were comprised mostly of people with a college education or better. Pretty much says it all, eh? :owned:
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Peenyuh wrote:The news said that the 39% were comprised mostly of people with a college education or better. Pretty much says it all, eh? :owned:
No shit. People are idiots.
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Fender wrote:I hate how the question is even framed. Evolution is not something you believe or don't believe. That's like asking "Do you believe the sky is blue?" You understand it or you don't.

Maybe I haven't followed this all closely enough of the years, but I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys, what is the actual understanding behind all this, cause if the monkey thing is what is being talked about here... rof
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The day the anti-Christ was born.

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bork[e] wrote:
Fender wrote:I hate how the question is even framed. Evolution is not something you believe or don't believe. That's like asking "Do you believe the sky is blue?" You understand it or you don't.

Maybe I haven't followed this all closely enough of the years, but I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys, what is the actual understanding behind all this, cause if the monkey thing is what is being talked about here... rof
Okay, monkey-boy. ( :olo: ) Listen , this thing is bigger than simply where we come from. It's how we got to where we are. If there was no evolution, than any remains - of any creatures - from 10,000 (or a million) years ago would show absolutely no difference from the same creature that just died last week.
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The Tree of Life:
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bork[e] wrote:
Fender wrote:I hate how the question is even framed. Evolution is not something you believe or don't believe. That's like asking "Do you believe the sky is blue?" You understand it or you don't.

Maybe I haven't followed this all closely enough of the years, but I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys, what is the actual understanding behind all this, cause if the monkey thing is what is being talked about here... rof
Evolution doesn't claim we came from monkeys. It says we share a common ancestor. Big difference.
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i think he was joking about the 'we came from monkeys' but if he wasn't, i am surprised that someone out there still thinks this is what evolutionary theory states.

But yea, I can't see how people can refuse to believe in something that is happening around us, although people's minds are sort of trapped by the temporal limitations placed on them by such short lifespans relative to the timescales these processes take place over.
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bork[e] wrote:
Fender wrote:I hate how the question is even framed. Evolution is not something you believe or don't believe. That's like asking "Do you believe the sky is blue?" You understand it or you don't.

Maybe I haven't followed this all closely enough of the years, but I find it hard to believe we came from monkeys, what is the actual understanding behind all this, cause if the monkey thing is what is being talked about here... rof
Nonono, we aren't monkeys. We are apes. We share a common ancestor with monkeys.

:rolleyes:
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werldhed wrote: Evolution doesn't claim we came from monkeys. It says we share a common ancestor. Big difference.
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GG reading the entire thread before replying.
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tnf wrote:i think he was joking about the 'we came from monkeys' but if he wasn't, i am surprised that someone out there still thinks this is what evolutionary theory states.
Are you really?
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ok, someone that posts here that thinks that.
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evolution is pretty much fact isn't it?
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One way to look at it:

That evolution occurs is fact, HOW evolution occurs is theory, as is how anything we develop a scientific model to describe...problem is that the public conception of the term theory is that it is just some idea cooked up by someone and everything that is a theory is just that - ideas.
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And, if Jesus wins, doesn't that prove Darwin right? :olo:
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Did you sustain some sort of head trauma?
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tnf wrote:ok, someone that posts here that thinks that.
Just curious, but what does posting here have to do with it?
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Dr. P.Z. Myers will be at Darwin Day Banquet in Columbus, OH this weekend. Just a little too far for me to go, but we've got a couple other Ohioans here.
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