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busetibi wrote:no, please tell me why they're blowing up children.
soldiers,police, government workers np, fair targets
but children?
Of the overall number of children killed, 88% were Palestinian and 12 % were Israeli.The trend of child deaths mirrors the total rate: the number of Israeli children killed has declined markedly while that of Palestinian children remains high.

Palestinian children make up 20% of the total Palestinian deaths while Israeli children represent 12% of total Israeli deaths.

In 2006, 31% of the Palestinian children killed were 12 years or younger. 8/ The vast majority of children died as a result of injuries sustained either to the head, chest or to more than one place of their body.
And this is only up to parts of 2007.

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/d9d90d ... enDocument
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MKJ wrote:rofl, 'genocide'

if it were 288 germans getting killed you wouldnt be crying 'genocide'

fauxnationalism :olo:
If you don't think Israel is ethnically cleansing Palestine, you're a fucking idiot.
Of course this summation of only 2 DAYS of Israeli atrocities IGNORES the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Palestinians killed violently and non-violently since 1967 by the race-based State of Israel in what can only be described as a slow Palestinian Genocide: post-invasion avoidable deaths total 0.3 million; post-invasion under-5 infant deathas total 0.2 million; and refugees total 7 million (see "We Are All Palestinian. Apartheid Israel’s Gaza Concentration Camp & Palestinian Genocide": http://mwcnews.net/content/view/19915/42/)
How do you explain Israel's 10:1 "Them/US" death ratio?

Just in the December 27th massacre, the Palestinian-Israeli death ratio was 282:1. How do you justify that?

EDIT: Now 345 dead and over 1600 wounded...
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Fender wrote:To be fair, though, Israel's actions since 1949 probably do qualify. This incident? No.

speaking for myself tho, this happens pretty much every year around xmas. oddly enough i cant find myself being outraged anymore
which itself is a sad situation :/
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israel should just fuck off the face of the earth.
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Also Monday, the Iranian Red Crescent sent a ship carrying 2,000 tons of food to Palestinians living in Gaza to be delivered via Egypt. An Iranian military plane also landed at Cairo International Airport carrying 24 tons of food and medicine destined for Gaza.

The head of Iran's Red Crescent, Masoud Khatami, said three more ships were waiting to be loaded with humanitarian aid, and Iranian hospitals were ready to receive injured Gazans, according to the official Iran news agency, IRNA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081229/ap_ ... ran_israel
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Why does Hamas fire rockets into Israel if they know they will respond like this?

And I'm not saying Israel is without culpability here - anything but - but IMHO both sides (hamas and the Isreali military - not the civilians caught in the middle) are always fucking things up in one way or another.

What frustrates me is that no president can nut up and say that we'll hold Israel to the same standards of nonviolence as we want to hold Hamas, etc. Turn a blind eye when Israel kills 100 civilians to get one target. From that perspective, I can see why the other side might say "why the fuck should we follow the rules if they big guy doesn't have to?" In any case, both sides tend to be fucking nuts in one way or another and as long as religion is around and each side things god is in their corner, things aren't going to change.
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i'm not even gonna bother.

jews were the first nazis.

now go fuck yourselfs
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tnf wrote:Why does Hamas fire rockets into Israel if they know they will respond like this?
why does hamas bait israel into heavy-handed attacks that further anger the palestinian population and thus further polarizing the political situation and increasing support of terrorist organizations like hamas?

for the betterment of the palestinian people, of course!
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here you go mazda, a way to do something with your faux outrage.

TEHRAN, Iran - A group of influential conservative Iranian clerics launched an online registration drive today seeking volunteers to fight against Israel in response to its air assault on the Gaza Strip.
The conservative clerics decided to sign up volunteers after Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a religious decree on Sunday, saying that anyone killed while defending Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip against Israeli attacks would be considered a martyr.

here's the site addy for you;
http://www.Rohaniatmobarez.com it's only open for a week so you had better hurry.
It's time to join your persian brothers and go kill some jews, 72 virgins await you, you may die, but at least you'll get laid (which would be a change)


go for it!! Image
Gaza's Shirt:
Sayyid Iman Al-Sharif (aka Dr Fadl)
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The only people saying Hamas fired rockets into Israel is Israel...and everyone eats it up.

If anyone here thinks we're getting the whole picture from the western media can I sniff the same glue you do?
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busetibi wrote:It's time to join your persian brothers and go kill some jews, 72 virgins await you, you may die, but at least you'll get laid (which would be a change)
That's cute, you actually think Persians are Muslims. I'll just chalk this up to your retardation :up:
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dont split hairs or are you saying Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is not a muslim?
so, you going to sign up?

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sorry I forgot to post the email addy, here you go;
info@Rohaniatmobarez.com
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Gaza's Shirt:
Sayyid Iman Al-Sharif (aka Dr Fadl)
Part 1.
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp? ... 3&id=16980
Part 2.
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=3&id=17003
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Hey Mazda, why aren't you off fighting those muslim oppressors that have conquered your country then?
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I don't think I've ever seen mazda own himself this hard before.
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:The only people saying Hamas fired rockets into Israel is Israel...and everyone eats it up.

If anyone here thinks we're getting the whole picture from the western media can I sniff the same glue you do?
the fortunate thing for Israel is that some rockets fall short, of course this is bad for the Gaza population on the border with Israel.....................

Gaza City, Gaza Strip —- A crude rocket fired by Palestinian militants fell short of its target in Israel on Friday, striking a house in the northern Gaza Strip and killing two schoolgirls.Gaza Health Ministry official Dr. Moiaya Hassanain said the two victims, ages 5 and 12, were cousins. Three other children were wounded, he said.
The girls were the first Palestinian civilians inadvertently killed by militants since their truce with Israel began collapsing six weeks ago. Family members and medics said they were killed by rocket fire.

and again,
http://www.pchrgaza.org/files/weapon/en ... ort44.html

The Palestinian group Islamic Jihad has said it is considering halting its rocket attacks on Israel following a request from Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president.

and......
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD216408

oops, looks like the Arab MSM are conniving with the Western MSM


I think you should stop sniffing glue, it kills brain cells you know,lol, why am I telling you this, as it's evident by your post that you're a lost cause.
you should sit down and have a snack Mr Creosote, maybe a dozen chickens washed down with a crate of Brown Ale?
Gaza's Shirt:
Sayyid Iman Al-Sharif (aka Dr Fadl)
Part 1.
http://www.aawsat.com/english/news.asp? ... 3&id=16980
Part 2.
http://www.asharq-e.com/news.asp?section=3&id=17003
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busetibi wrote:The girls were the first Palestinian civilians inadvertently killed by militants since their truce with Israel began collapsing six weeks ago.
heaven doesn't just magic virgins out of thin air, they have to come from somewhere.
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lol whats funny...by announcing their goal is to completely destroy hamas and stop rocket attacks, israel has just lost another battle...0 for 2 in 1 year...lol.

the rockets and hamas will continue...
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Captain Mazda wrote:Swept under the rug mostly.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... UkJ_DqJaNw
This has been front page news for days now so i think you might need to refine your thesis.

Let me ask this Mazda, did you hear about http://www.thestar.com/article/559230 and do you give a shit about it?
KAMPALA, Uganda – Attackers hacked to death scores of people who sought refuge at a Catholic church in remote eastern Congo the day after Christmas, officials and witnesses said today.

The Ugandan army and a rebel group accused each other of carrying out the massacre.

Survivors and witnesses said the killings occurred close to Congo's border with Sudan, near to where the armies of those two countries and Uganda began an offensive this month to root out the rebel Lord's Resistance Army, according to Ugandan army spokesman Capt. Chris Magezi.

A United Nations spokesman, Ivo Brandau, said 120 homes were set ablaze in the area and that thousands of people have fled for fear of further attacks.

The LRA has waged one of Africa's longest and most brutal wars for the past two decades. In the past, aid and human rights groups have accused the rebels of cutting off the lips of civilians and forcing thousands of children to serve as soldiers or sex slaves. The conflict has spilled out of northern Uganda and into Sudan and Congo.

"The scene at the church was unbelievable. It was horrendous. On the floor were dead bodies of mostly women and children cut in pieces," Magezi told The Associated Press. He blamed the LRA for the massacre and quoted witnesses as saying the rebels used machetes, clubs and swords in Friday's attack.

The rebels denied responsibility, with their spokesman David Matsanga saying the group had no fighters in the area and accusing Uganda's army of the killings.

But witness Abel Longi said he recognized the rebels by their dreadlocked hair, their Acholi language and the number of young boys among them. "I hid in bush near the church and heard people wailing as they were being cut with machetes," Longi told The AP in a telephone call from the village of Doruma, where the church is located. He owns a shop there.

Death toll estimates varied, in part because the area is so remote.

A European aid worker said more than 100 people are reported to have been killed in the attack, and the Congolese military put the number of dead at 120 to 150. Magezi said 45 civilians were killed. The aid worker spoke on condition of anonymity because his organization fears reprisals.

UN-run Radio Okapi quoted the governor of Congo's Oriental Province, Medard Autsai Senga, as saying the death toll had surpassed 75 and that bodies still were being discovered around the church. He appealed for aid for survivors.

The UN said the rebels killed 189 people in three villages over two days, 89 of them at Doruma.

The rebels may have been retaliating against civilians for military attacks, including a Dec. 14 air bombing on their main camp in Garamba National Park.

Rebel spokesman Matsanga claimed in a telephone interview from Nairobi, Kenya, that Uganda's 105th Battalion was responsible for the massacre. "They were airlifted to Congo to kill civilians and then say we are responsible," he charged. "They want to justify their stay in DRC (Congo) and loot minerals from there like they did before."

Congo suffered back-to-back civil wars from 1996 to 2002 that drew in neighbouring countries in what became a rush to plunder Congo's massive mineral wealth.

Currently, long-running peace talks between the LRA and the Ugandan government have stalled.

Rebel leaders have sought guarantees they will not be arrested under international warrants. The rebels' elusive leader, Joseph Kony, and other top members are wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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emotional debate. Pretty bad situation over there, no matter which side you choose.

One thing that needs to be said: Hamas seems to be getting the exact results they are looking for. Why else would they be firing rockets actively into Israel while hiding like cowards among women, students and children? Also, this fact is not debated by anyone in the advanced world. Rocket signatures can be read via satellite at any given time by any military owning one, and would certainly be countered were Israel to be lying in order to start a deadly and expensive (monetarily and politically) "race war."
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Let me ask this Mazda, did you hear about http://www.thestar.com/article/559230 and do you give a shit about it?
Yes I read about that a couple days ago, but I won't comment on it until I understand the situation fully.

What does that have to do with what's going on in Palestine?
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lol
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Captain Mazda wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Let me ask this Mazda, did you hear about http://www.thestar.com/article/559230 and do you give a shit about it?
Yes I read about that a couple days ago, but I won't comment on it until I understand the situation fully.

What does that have to do with what's going on in Palestine?
Have there been many threads about the massacre in the Congo?
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tnf wrote:
Have there been many threads about the massacre in the Congo?
Or Darfur? Or the Karen people in Burma? The list goes on and on. Whats going on in Israel and the Gaza strip is apalling but people get outraged about this and completely ignore even worse atrocities going on in many other places in the world.
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this is funny... i bet you guys watch fox news and believe it...
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tnf wrote:
Captain Mazda wrote:Yes I read about that a couple days ago, but I won't comment on it until I understand the situation fully.

What does that have to do with what's going on in Palestine?
Have there been many threads about the massacre in the Congo?
It is really sad that you had to explain that.
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