Creationism in the textbooks coming up again

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At a meeting this morning I was informed that Texas is pushing very hard to get creation science into high school science textbooks, and since Texas apparently accounts for up to 40% of the textbook market, if they get their way, the rest of the country may be screwed too...(I need to source these figures and find the article - not sure if it was online or not).

Between this and that I-35 prophecy story, I think it has become clear that something needs to be done with Texas. Nuke?

[Sushi-X]

I will rofl on texas's cat :P and this is my senior year so idc what happens with the textbooks but it bull to me

[Fender]

Apparently, there's one of those dinos-are-only-6k-years-old "museums" somewhere close to me in Akron.

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We've got a math teacher at the school who spouts that shit all the time and tries to confuse the students by sounding educated about the subject when he really knows fuckall about anything but tangents and cosines.

His latest target is global warming, and here is the logic for his argument:

The sun is 99.99% of the solar system's mass. Therefore, global warming is a hoax.

He has a picture of the scale of the sun vs the planets on his door and is routinely photocopying shit with arguments about as weak as that and putting them in people's mailboxes.

[vesp]

sigh...

:/


How did religious numbskulls become such a problem in the USA?

[Kills On Site]

I love how back in the day a Baptist Minister wrote the Pledge of Alligence and made no referrence to god in there because he wanted it to apply to all Americans, where did religious leaders like him go.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/us/03 ... y3sHTGNZsw

There it is.

[Κracus]

Don't mess with Texas... take it from behind.

[Massive Quasars]

[long link to NYTimes article]

There it is.

Thanks.

[obsidian]

Don't mess with Texas... take it from behind.

As in No Child Left Behind?

[Nightshade]

That's fucking ridiculous, the fundy christian nutjobs ride again.
I'm all for open, honest debate about all things scientific, we all know they're called 'theories' for a reason. I'd simply like to see ANY sort of experimentation that follows the scientific method regarding intelligent design.

[Fender]

Apparently, there's one of those dinos-are-only-6k-years-old "museums" somewhere close to me in Akron.

Found it.
http://www.akronfossils.com/

You have logged on to the official website for Akron Fossils & Science Center and Truassic Park. We are a museum and science center devoted to teaching Creation Science and Intelligent Design models in contrast to Evolutionary models. The center features hands-on science activities as well as many fossils from Ohio and around the world.

Families, groups, and individuals of all ages will enjoy our informative exhibits as they journey through a series of questions in search of truth. We give guided tours beginning at the top of every hour, hosted by our friendly tour guides. Our museum admission price includes free admittance into our out-door dinosaur themed playground, Truassic Park!

Our trained staff is prepared to give special presentations to your group. We can speak on a variety of topics, such as: The Basics of Creation Science, and Evidence from the Fossil Record (featuring fossils from our museum). We encourage you to take advantage of our resources.

Our trained staff is prepared to give special presentations to your group. We can speak on a variety of topics, such as: The Basics of Creation Science, and Evidence from the Fossil Record (featuring fossils from our museum). We encourage you to take advantage of our resources

Just under 11 miles from me. I used to live about 3 miles from it and had no idea it was there.

[obsidian]

Hey... they have a feedback form. And email and phone numbers. How quaint.

[R00k]

"Tru-assic"

words can't express.....

[Fender]

Hey... they have a feedback form. And email and phone numbers. How quaint.

What I found REALLY disappointing is the list of donors for their fund raising auction.
I don't think they were really honest with people when they solicited the donations.
ffs, one of the donors is http://www.cosi.org/ which is a legit, real science museum
other strange donors:
Akron Zoo
Cleveland Zoo
Cleveland Orchestra
Columbus Zoo
National Inventor’s Hall of Fame
William McKinley Presidential Library & Museum

I can't believe that those organizations would knowingly support this kind of crap. I might write them.

[Ryoki]

Do that, should be interesting.

[Massive Quasars]

US Math and Science education scores lag far behind other wealthy developed nations.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... -education

While I doubt creationist lobbying and these results are directly related, they maybe symptomatic of a broader underlying problem with US public school education (it's treatment through government policy and societal attitudes, inclusive).

An aside: Canada appears to have done quite well in the math and science portions.

[R00k]

When I was in public school, the majority of students avoided math and science like the plague. They were subjects for people with no social life - saying you weren't any good at math or science was almost instant cool points in some circles. It's a matter of perception with youth today that needs to be changed.
Obviously it wasn't the same in college, but the majority of my graduating class in high school never went to college.

[bitWISE]

US Math and Science education scores lag far behind other wealthy developed nations.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... -education

While I doubt creationist lobbying and these results are directly related, they maybe symptomatic of a broader underlying problem with US public school education (it's treatment through government policy and societal attitudes, inclusive).

An aside: Canada appears to have done quite well in the math and science portions.

Jesus Is my Calculator

Hey... they have a feedback form. And email and phone numbers. How quaint.

What I found REALLY disappointing is the list of donors for their fund raising auction.
I don't think they were really honest with people when they solicited the donations.
ffs, one of the donors is http://www.cosi.org/ which is a legit, real science museum
other strange donors:
Akron Zoo
Cleveland Zoo
Cleveland Orchestra
Columbus Zoo
National Inventor’s Hall of Fame
William McKinley Presidential Library & Museum

I can't believe that those organizations would knowingly support this kind of crap. I might write them.

Cosi did? Damn I used to love that place.

[Fender]

Cosi did? Damn I used to love that place.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I have trouble believing the donations were acquired completely honestly.

[Fender]

sigh...
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006 ... elongs.php
edit: ugh image is all messed up on this dark background

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http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Very modern looking now.

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Take that science!

[obsidian]

Special notice! The current issue of Answers magazine (issue 2.4, Oct–Dec 2007) is completely sold out in the U.S. (copies are still available in the U.K. and Europe).

We should start our own Creationist website and run it like a supermarket tabloid. "Scientists examine Hubble images determines Face of Mars to be image of Jesus"

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This isn't bad: