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Shmee
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Did anyone else see that?

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Bush came on TV, said, "It's terrible that Teri's dead. What a shame," etc., etc.

Then he said, dressed up as best he could, "Oh yeah, and all the evidence we had for war with Iraq was dead wrong sorry bye," and then he left. What none of the news networks (CNN, FOX, MSNBC) showed, was that directly after that, the chair and co-chairman of this investigation comittee came on and said there was very little real evidence to support the war in Iraq, it was all based on assumptions pushed as fact, and the evidence there was was all completely false...

I'm at a loss for words. This war was totally ilegal and totally wrong. Bush should be impeached for abuse of power and you Britts better keep this in mind when you choose your next Prime Minister. We are fucked - don't continue to follow us down this path....
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Duhard
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Post by Duhard »

lol...gimme a break

there are no illegal wars or "wrong" wars...saddam was a threat to humanity and now that he's gone from power, it's a good thing.

war is cool...now they know who's boss
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

So this is the other report that Bush suppressed til after the election right?
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Post by R00k »

I won't really be surprised if none of the networks even bring it up again. Let's just all forget he said that.
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Post by Fender »

bush is more a threat to humanity than saddam was :rolleyes:
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Post by rep »

I'll have far less issues with him when he admits that:

1. The actual total known death tolls from Iraq and Afghanistan. For example, people who die in transit to a facility outside of the country isn't listed as a casualty, and a lot of times they send bodies out to Rammstein just so they appear to have died on the way so the toll we get on TV isn't the 5000 that it probably is for the US servicemen/women. The civilian deaths are probably in the 100,000 range as many speculate.

2. He is a medium-ranking member of a society of fellow global elites who have quickened a long standing plan for world dominance that was designed in the late 1800s and enacted in the 1930s and escalated in 1941.

3. He admits to the United States political system being completely fake, and a counter-balance social psychological operation meant to imply balance in political agendas by having two fiercely different factions competing with one another, 'republicans' and 'democrats' when in all actuality it is controlled by one group of men, all of which are in the government above the state level.

4. He admits to doing some super secret spy work during the time he was supposed to be in the Texas Air National Guard, because I don't buy the excuse that he was helping out with his dad's friend's political run.

5. He admits to being a strategic failure in every sense, as evident from his multiple business failures and illegal trading operations that kept him rich while every one of his companies went arBUSTo. :lol:

6. He admits to the homosexual paedophillic dark underground of the Washington and global elite.

7. He admits to Bin Laden dying sometime between 1999 and 2002.

8. He laughs in public at the people who bought the October Surprise.

9. He gets his father to admit secrets of the past; ie: He was deepthroat, LBJ killed Kennedy and many others, etc.
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Post by rep »

Duhard wrote:lol...gimme a break

there are no illegal wars or "wrong" wars...saddam was a threat to humanity and now that he's gone from power, it's a good thing.

war is cool...now they know who's boss
Actually, Korea and Vietnam were wrong wars. The communist system is flawed in practice, and all countries under that political system fail financially (even though some persist, like China but it's not exactly bursting at the wallet by any means.)

If we let Korea and Vietnam progress, there would have been three possibilities: a) Civil War b) Financial Ruin c) Willing change of political infrastructure.

The same goes for Iraq. If you give a monkey a grenade, you'll have ape colored walls in no time. If you let the monkey evolve on his own and learn to make the grenade, then he won't likely pull the pin on himself. Understand?

Also, when we install a system proven only in our own minds, we retard the ability for that country to develop something that potentially could be better. What if the monarchy was the only political system, and it was constantly enforced on countries? Then we'd never have democracy or something better.
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

rep wrote:
Duhard wrote:lol...gimme a break

there are no illegal wars or "wrong" wars...saddam was a threat to humanity and now that he's gone from power, it's a good thing.

war is cool...now they know who's boss
Actually, Korea and Vietnam were wrong wars. The communist system is flawed in practice, and all countries under that political system fail financially (even though some persist, like China but it's not exactly bursting at the wallet by any means.)

If we let Korea and Vietnam progress, there would have been three possibilities: a) Civil War b) Financial Ruin c) Willing change of political infrastructure.

The same goes for Iraq. If you give a monkey a grenade, you'll have ape colored walls in no time. If you let the monkey evolve on his own and learn to make the grenade, then he won't likely pull the pin on himself. Understand?

Also, when we install a system proven only in our own minds, we retard the ability for that country to develop something that potentially could be better. What if the monarchy was the only political system, and it was constantly enforced on countries? Then we'd never have democracy or something better.
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Post by shiv4 »

Duhard wrote: war is cool...now they know who's boss
haha, that's exactly what hitler thought - as long as he owned the others.

so we learn: there is no "illegal" or "wrong" war - except you are on the wrong side or a loser.
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Re: Did anyone else see that?

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Shmee wrote: We are fucked - ...
agreed
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/03/31/ ... index.html
Report: Iraq intelligence 'dead wrong'
Bush says fundamental changes needed in spy agencies

Thursday, March 31, 2005 Posted: 12:43 PM EST (1743 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. intelligence community was "simply wrong" in its assessments of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities before the U.S. invasion, a presidential commission said Thursday.

"We conclude that the intelligence community was dead wrong in almost all of its prewar judgments about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction," said a letter from the commission to President Bush. "This was a major intelligence failure."

The panel -- called the Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction -- formally presented its report to Bush on Thursday morning.

Bush praised the commission for presenting an "unvarnished look at our intelligence community."

He said the report's recommendations were "thoughtful and extremely significant," adding that the "central conclusion is one that I share --America's intelligence community needs fundamental change to successfully confront the threats of the 21st century."

The commission lists numerous intelligence shortcomings and makes more than 70 recommendations in the almost 600-page report.

The report calls for a complete transformation of the intelligence community, which it described as "fragmented, loosely managed and poorly coordinated."

"The 15 intelligence organizations are a 'community' in name only and rarely act with a unity of purpose," the panel said in its overview of the report.

The report also expressed misgivings about U.S. intelligence on Iran, North Korea, China and Russia, but it said most of those findings were classified.

"We can say here that we found that we have only limited access to critical information about several of these high-priority intelligence targets," the report said.

An October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate warned that Iraq was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, had reconstituted its nuclear weapon program and had biological and chemical weapons.

The Bush administration used those conclusions as part of its argument for the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

But the Iraq Survey Group -- set up to look for weapons of mass destruction or evidence of them in the country -- issued a final report saying it saw no weapons or no evidence that Iraq was trying to reconstitute them.

The commission's report said the principal cause of the intelligence failures was the intelligence community's "inability to collect good information about Iraq's WMD programs, serious errors in analyzing what information it could gather and a failure to make clear just how much of its analysis was based on assumptions rather than good evidence."

"The single most prominent a recurring theme" of its recommendations is "stronger and more centralized management of the intelligence community, and, in general, the creation of a genuinely integrated community, instead of a loose confederation of independent agencies."

The panel urged Bush to give broad authority to John Negroponte when he is confirmed as the director of national intelligence.

"It won't be easy to provide this leadership to the intelligence components of the Defense Department or to the CIA. They are some of the government's most headstrong agencies," the report warned the president.

"Sooner or later, they will try to run around -- or over -- the [director of national intelligence]. Then, only your determined backing will convince them that we cannot return to the old ways."

The report also called for changes at the FBI, including the creation of a new National Security Service that would merge the agency's counterterrorism and counterintelligence divisions.

After the intelligence failures in Iraq, Bush appointed the nine-member commission led by Laurence Silberman, a senior federal appellate court judge and a Republican who was in the Nixon and Ford administrations, and former Sen. and Virginia Gov. Chuck Robb, a Democrat.
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Post by Maiden »

i wouldn't believe a frickin word coming out of washington these days. looks like nothing but pass the buck to me.
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Post by Duhard »

you guys just don't understand...bush is a man of peace
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you mean a piece of a man?
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hate. wrote:wow
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hate. wrote:wow
Hey check it out, it's that native american retard. I haven't seen a native american retard since I last saw a native american!
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Post by Duhard »

Kracus wrote:
hate. wrote:wow
Hey check it out, it's that native american retard. I haven't seen a native american retard since I last saw a native american!
He's smarter than you.
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

by a factor of about 10000
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