10 years jail for serving laxative brownies
i dont. hence the "but" in my previous post.
im saying that if the judge orders him to pay the bills from their doctors and a new pair of underwear, i'd say fair play. he will think thrice before doing it again.
10 years? rediculous. as is even 1 year, or a month.
in other words, in fear of repeating myself, im not endorsing his prank, and im not defending him at all. he's at fault, and should be punished - but not in the excessive way they are asking.
my "defending" only goes out to the pranking behaviour itself, seeing how any prank can go horribly wrong if not careful. jailing all pranksters would be a waste of time, money, and credibility of the justice system.
I think we're about to go in circles, so unless a brilliant light of an arguement shines, I will retract myself from the discussion as I feel I have made my point \o/
feel free to reread this post for needed gratification :icon32:
im saying that if the judge orders him to pay the bills from their doctors and a new pair of underwear, i'd say fair play. he will think thrice before doing it again.
10 years? rediculous. as is even 1 year, or a month.
in other words, in fear of repeating myself, im not endorsing his prank, and im not defending him at all. he's at fault, and should be punished - but not in the excessive way they are asking.
my "defending" only goes out to the pranking behaviour itself, seeing how any prank can go horribly wrong if not careful. jailing all pranksters would be a waste of time, money, and credibility of the justice system.
I think we're about to go in circles, so unless a brilliant light of an arguement shines, I will retract myself from the discussion as I feel I have made my point \o/
feel free to reread this post for needed gratification :icon32:
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and you rook
say you get home from a hard day posting at work, you get outta ur car, and theres ur dog on the ground with blood commin out of its ass.
it turns out ur 18 yo neibor and his party buddies deiced that cuz ur dog was always yappin theyd get some laughs and give hime a couple boxes of exlax
whaen they seen how mad you got, the one guy shed a lil croc tear and sayd sorry while his budd smirked .
ten mins later they were partying down like regular yuckin it up out side whilst you tend ur fucked up dog.
youd fight to defend him from recieving any charges because he say he and his bros were only fuckin around.
right?
say you get home from a hard day posting at work, you get outta ur car, and theres ur dog on the ground with blood commin out of its ass.
it turns out ur 18 yo neibor and his party buddies deiced that cuz ur dog was always yappin theyd get some laughs and give hime a couple boxes of exlax
whaen they seen how mad you got, the one guy shed a lil croc tear and sayd sorry while his budd smirked .
ten mins later they were partying down like regular yuckin it up out side whilst you tend ur fucked up dog.
youd fight to defend him from recieving any charges because he say he and his bros were only fuckin around.
right?
If someone did that to my dog, I would charge them with trespassing.
If I let my dog run loose through the neighborhood where it would aggravate other people, then I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on since it happened due to my irresponsibility.
Don't you think that's a little different plained?
The whole point of contention behind this discussion is that it was likely just a prank gone bad.
But people don't pull pranks on animals -- animals don't get pranks.
In your scenario, if the prank had gone perfectly, what would have happened? My dog would have had runny shits for an hour? How is that a prank?
Animals don't reason, they don't think, they don't talk, they don't give a response, they don't get jokes, they can't "get you back."
Putting Visine in a dog's water is just plain cruel, because he will never understand what happened or why. Putting eyedrops in some dickhead's water after he's insulted your family is just poetic justice.
Do you not agree that there is a difference?
If I let my dog run loose through the neighborhood where it would aggravate other people, then I wouldn't have much of a leg to stand on since it happened due to my irresponsibility.
Don't you think that's a little different plained?
The whole point of contention behind this discussion is that it was likely just a prank gone bad.
But people don't pull pranks on animals -- animals don't get pranks.
In your scenario, if the prank had gone perfectly, what would have happened? My dog would have had runny shits for an hour? How is that a prank?
Animals don't reason, they don't think, they don't talk, they don't give a response, they don't get jokes, they can't "get you back."
Putting Visine in a dog's water is just plain cruel, because he will never understand what happened or why. Putting eyedrops in some dickhead's water after he's insulted your family is just poetic justice.
Do you not agree that there is a difference?
Think of it this way: People who pull physical pranks on animals when they're young are more likely to be serial killers when they grow up.plained wrote:R00k wrote: Putting eyedrops in some dickhead's water after he's insulted your family is just poetic justice.
you are a fucking idiot :icon19:
People who pull pranks on other people when they're young do not have this stigma.
Do you think there is a reason for the difference?
see thats npriddla wrote:and WE ALL very much dislike your retarded nonsensical bullshit. fuck off. die. eat ex-lax until you bleed out the anus, etc.plained wrote:its not an aurgument its a fuc u.
i dislike very much people that would to something that weasely.
theyre jus words
i can respect that
LOL, I perceive that you've been getting too emotional to seriously respond to my questions.plained wrote:rook i wouldnt worry about this too muchplained wrote:its not an aurgument its a fuc u.
i dislike very much people that would to something that weasely.
you got some good qualities and your pretty young, you will most likely go though some changes and have diff perceptions as you mature
Nah you're right, you weren't getting emotional. 
plained wrote:i'd be pretty fucking pissed of if someone tamperd with my food
i think the sentance is much funnier than the prank
now thats comedy
it would even be funnier with 20 year
plained wrote:fuc the fucker he thinks he funny doing stoopidfucking shit to others.
real comedians to shit to themselves.
fuc this dickhead
plained wrote:he should have though b4 poisoning a bunch of peeps
fuck that fuc'em
plained wrote:blood came outta thier asses ffs
fuckin tricked and poisoned and who knows what internal damage
fuck that idiot and his idiot parents
plained wrote:there is directions and warnings on that shit.
if its fine for you to accept getting tricked into poisioning
thats just great for you.
not me tho, fuck them and thier parents.
plained wrote:btw you people are very nieve
fucking haters will kill you and laugh and say
"oh whoops i was pranking so i dont have to take responsability"
yay
plained wrote:you cant read comprehend for reals ey?
a prank is harmless, like a squirting lapel flower.
when someone deliberatly prepares a drug wayyy over recomended doses and hides it in food and gives it to unsuspecting trusting people-thats not a prank, its a fucking crime.
like i sayd you wanna attack me, make a fucin thread.
plained wrote:look ffs
they dint lay down these charges cuz plained sayd ey you dig?
and its not a fair question , its a fucking stoopid question.
i have my opinion and thats that.
fuc people who trick poison people.
plained wrote:rofl its not jus my posts! you cant understant what you read 1/2 the time
na if i was one of the posters that you regularly brown nose, youd be spamming a diff tune
of corce why i bother responding when i know you cant understand what you read ...
i'm am a big dummy
plained wrote:and you rook
say you get home from a hard day posting at work, you get outta ur car, and theres ur dog on the ground with blood commin out of its ass.
it turns out ur 18 yo neibor and his party buddies deiced that cuz ur dog was always yappin theyd get some laughs and give hime a couple boxes of exlax
whaen they seen how mad you got, the one guy shed a lil croc tear and sayd sorry while his budd smirked .
ten mins later they were partying down like regular yuckin it up out side whilst you tend ur fucked up dog.
youd fight to defend him from recieving any charges because he say he and his bros were only fuckin around.
right?
plained wrote:you are a fucking idiot :icon19:
plained wrote:fuc u
plained wrote:its not an aurgument its a fuc u.
i dislike very much people that would to something that weasely.
I have to agree with plained about what really happened here - giving people medication - and that is what laxatives are, a drug...common or not...you can't medicate people as a joke. I know the kid didn't mean harm - it was a prank. The fact that nobody was hurt here doesn't change the statute that this act probably falls under. And although rare, let's just look at some potential side effects for laxatives:
"Rectal bleeding, blistering, burning, itching, or pain" if someone had to go to the doc for rectal blisters (mandatory ) would the kid deserve any punishment? If someone got violently ill would he deserve punishment?
I agree with all of you who say the kid didn't mean serious harm - he was an idiot pulling a prank and he obviously didn't consider the serious nature of this. I don't think he should get any sort of lengthy jail time, and I'm guessing he'll be put on probation or something like that with community service. But these are the types of cases that need to be dealt with a bit harshly, with publicity, so kids all over see that this kind of shit isn't something you walk away from with a slap on the wrist.
I think the law is pretty deliberate about who can and who cannot give medicine to people - even willingly. He broke a pretty significant law, even if his particular infraction falls under the less severe end of the spectrum this law covers. But that alone will warrant the matter being dealt with in the legal system, unless all parties involved decide to settle out of court. But if anyone decides to sue him for pain and suffering, I'm guessing they would win so long as their demands weren't completely out of line (i.e. asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars for some diarrhea).
So yea, let's not forget that there are specific rules and guidelines you follow in the legal system regardless of what we think of the merits.
"Rectal bleeding, blistering, burning, itching, or pain" if someone had to go to the doc for rectal blisters (mandatory
) would the kid deserve any punishment? If someone got violently ill would he deserve punishment?I agree with all of you who say the kid didn't mean serious harm - he was an idiot pulling a prank and he obviously didn't consider the serious nature of this. I don't think he should get any sort of lengthy jail time, and I'm guessing he'll be put on probation or something like that with community service. But these are the types of cases that need to be dealt with a bit harshly, with publicity, so kids all over see that this kind of shit isn't something you walk away from with a slap on the wrist.
I think the law is pretty deliberate about who can and who cannot give medicine to people - even willingly. He broke a pretty significant law, even if his particular infraction falls under the less severe end of the spectrum this law covers. But that alone will warrant the matter being dealt with in the legal system, unless all parties involved decide to settle out of court. But if anyone decides to sue him for pain and suffering, I'm guessing they would win so long as their demands weren't completely out of line (i.e. asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars for some diarrhea).
So yea, let's not forget that there are specific rules and guidelines you follow in the legal system regardless of what we think of the merits.
Wow this thread grew rapidly during a good night's sleep 
Anyway, dultron, plained, hear me out.
Ofcourse it's wrong that this 18-year-old (adult) person used laxatives, which clearly have warnings on them, to prank people. He should be made aware of the dangers of using such things.
If the end result was nothing more than a few people with runny arses, everyone (here) would laugh about it. Nothing more than the fact that blood was mentioned makes it a lot more shocking for most people on these forums.
The intent of the person was the situation I just described. He might've acted in ignorance, unintenionally creating a very unpleasant, arguably slightly dangerous situation, but this person isn't a criminal. This person isn't a madman who is unable to make good judgements.
I'm not saying this person shouldn't be punished, nor am I saying that we shouldn't pay any attention to it. All I'm saying is that jailtime will only have a negative impact on this 18-year-old, especially if we're talking in terms of years (10 years, in fact).
Let's educate people instead of punishing them. Maybe he even broke laws, but in my opinion, laws aren't there to tell you when you're going to get punished. That's the important bit. Don't punish simply for punishment or to "get even", make people learn from their mistakes. I'm of the opinion that jailtime doesn't learn anyone anything. Jailtime is (or should be) for those that can't learn and can't be helped anymore. Prison should be for people that have to be taken out of our community because otherwise they would form a significant danger. That's an order of magnitude we're not even getting close to with this 18-year-old.
Ofcourse the consequences of his actions should be taken into account. If someone died or has permanent damage as a result, things could be handled slightly differently. But even then, as long as this person does not form any immediate danger to his surroundings, prison time or a monetary punishment doesn't make him learn or doesn't do him good.
Anyway, dultron, plained, hear me out.
Ofcourse it's wrong that this 18-year-old (adult) person used laxatives, which clearly have warnings on them, to prank people. He should be made aware of the dangers of using such things.
If the end result was nothing more than a few people with runny arses, everyone (here) would laugh about it. Nothing more than the fact that blood was mentioned makes it a lot more shocking for most people on these forums.
The intent of the person was the situation I just described. He might've acted in ignorance, unintenionally creating a very unpleasant, arguably slightly dangerous situation, but this person isn't a criminal. This person isn't a madman who is unable to make good judgements.
I'm not saying this person shouldn't be punished, nor am I saying that we shouldn't pay any attention to it. All I'm saying is that jailtime will only have a negative impact on this 18-year-old, especially if we're talking in terms of years (10 years, in fact).
Let's educate people instead of punishing them. Maybe he even broke laws, but in my opinion, laws aren't there to tell you when you're going to get punished. That's the important bit. Don't punish simply for punishment or to "get even", make people learn from their mistakes. I'm of the opinion that jailtime doesn't learn anyone anything. Jailtime is (or should be) for those that can't learn and can't be helped anymore. Prison should be for people that have to be taken out of our community because otherwise they would form a significant danger. That's an order of magnitude we're not even getting close to with this 18-year-old.
Ofcourse the consequences of his actions should be taken into account. If someone died or has permanent damage as a result, things could be handled slightly differently. But even then, as long as this person does not form any immediate danger to his surroundings, prison time or a monetary punishment doesn't make him learn or doesn't do him good.