Explain it to me again?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:47 pm

Why Saddam is bad if he uses chemical weapons but the U.S.'s use of uranium is okay?

Has anyone seen this shit?

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/4.html

Excerpt:

Civilian populations in Afghanistan and Iraq and occupying troops have been contaminated with astounding levels of radioactive depleted and non-depleted uranium as a result of post-9/11 United States’ use of tons of uranium munitions. Researchers say surrounding countries are bound to feel the effects as well.

In 2003 scientists from the Uranium Medical Research Center (UMRC) studied urine samples of Afghan civilians and found that 100% of the samples taken had levels of non-depleted uranium (NDU) 400% to 2000% higher than normal levels. The UMRC research team studied six sites, two in Kabul and others in the Jalalabad area. The civilians were tested four months after the attacks in Afghanistan by the United States and its allies.

NDU is more radioactive than depleted uranium (DU), which itself is charged with causing many cancers and severe birth defects in the Iraqi population–especially children–over the past ten years. Four million pounds of radioactive uranium was dropped on Iraq in 2003 alone.

Lets keep it real people.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:50 pm

WOOOHOOOO!!!! GO USA!!!!!

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:51 pm

because the US is blessed by God

duh

Post by **lars63** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:58 pm

Wow!!!!! Are we good or what?

Were the good guys?

Post by **dmmh** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:07 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Why Saddam is bad if he uses chemical weapons but the U.S.'s use of uranium is okay?

Has anyone seen this shit?

http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/4.html

Excerpt:

Civilian populations in Afghanistan and Iraq and occupying troops have been contaminated with astounding levels of radioactive depleted and non-depleted uranium as a result of post-9/11 United States’ use of tons of uranium munitions. Researchers say surrounding countries are bound to feel the effects as well.

In 2003 scientists from the Uranium Medical Research Center (UMRC) studied urine samples of Afghan civilians and found that 100% of the samples taken had levels of non-depleted uranium (NDU) 400% to 2000% higher than normal levels. The UMRC research team studied six sites, two in Kabul and others in the Jalalabad area. The civilians were tested four months after the attacks in Afghanistan by the United States and its allies.

NDU is more radioactive than depleted uranium (DU), which itself is charged with causing many cancers and severe birth defects in the Iraqi population–especially children–over the past ten years. Four million pounds of radioactive uranium was dropped on Iraq in 2003 alone.

Lets keep it real people.

dood, everybody knows its a shit country/ administration, it just takes time (friggin amounts of time) before people will act upon it

Post by **Cool Blue** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:08 pm

Just finishing off what the Napalm missed.

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:09 pm

Genocide.

Post by **Dekard** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:10 pm

There was no tanks to use depleted uranium in Afghanistan.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:12 pm

What?

Post by **SplishSplash** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:17 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: In 2003 scientists from the Uranium Medical Research Center (UMRC) studied urine samples of Afghan civilians...

HMMM; TASTES RADIOACTIVE!

Post by **SplishSplash** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:18 pm

Dekard wrote:There was no tanks to use depleted uranium in Afghanistan.

HA-HA! You have NO clue! :icon19:

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:20 pm

I think he said there are no tanks in uranium so noone could be exposed to afghanistan - but personally i think most depleted afghanistan comes from helicopters & airplanes.

Post by **Ryoki** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:31 pm

Seriously though; some crazy terrorist could explode a dirty bomb in the states and actually justify doing it. Now that's scary.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:33 pm

Ryoki wrote:I think he said there are no tanks in uranium so noone could be exposed to afghanistan - but personally i think most depleted afghanistan comes from helicopters & airplanes.

Did I say there were tanks in Afghanistan? No.

Most of the uranium comes from planes, that's why he has no clue.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:53 pm

The A-10s main gun is the primary culprit, but I believe that there are a lot of bombs that have DU cases.

Post by **R00k** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:07 pm

Depleted uranium is used in all kinds of munitions as a coating. It strengthens the shells and makes them more able to do damage through armor.

As far as undepleted uranium, I haven't heard much and don't know much about its use in these wars, although it doesn't completely shock me.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:17 pm

They may have used the B61-11 so called tactical nukes bunkerbusters in Afghanistan.

Whether they have or not, the use of du and ndu munitions has been immense as the stats indicate in that initial link.

Post by **Dekard** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:18 pm

I was just putting that out there to see if I got any bites.. wasn't even going to follow up.

But yeah DU kills, slowly if you weren't hit in the initial blasts, you just get cancer and all kinds of bad shit.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:19 pm

At the Uranium Weapons Conference held October 2003 in Hamburg, Germany, independent scientists from around the world testified to a huge increase in birth deformities and cancers wherever NDU and DU had been used. Professor Katsuma Yagasaki, a scientist at the Ryukyus University, Okinawa calculated that the 800 tons of DU used in Afghanistan is the radioactive equivalent of 83,000 Nagasaki bombs. The amount of DU used in Iraq is equivalent to 250,000 Nagasaki bombs.

At

Post by **Fender** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:22 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:The amount of DU used in Iraq is equivalent to 250,000 Nagasaki bombs.

I'm having a hard time believing that one.

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:23 pm

What the fuck's the "Uranium Medical Research Centre"?

Post by **dmmh** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:28 pm

its an research centre, whats in a name huh?

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:31 pm

You mean it's not an entirely made up entity invoked on a rumour site in an attempt to give credibility to the figures they just pulled out of their arse?

Post by **4days** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:42 pm

Fender wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:The amount of DU used in Iraq is equivalent to 250,000 Nagasaki bombs.
I'm having a hard time believing that one.

maybe it's just comparing the amount of radioactive material involved, don't you only need a smidge of plutonium to make a nuclear bomb?

Geebs wrote:You mean it's not an entirely made up entity invoked on a rumour site in an attempt to give credibility to the figures they just pulled out of their arse?

http://www.umrc.net/about_umrc.aspx

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:06 pm

Great website. Not a load of bollocks at all.

FFS they might as well employ geoff as PR and chief researcher.

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