benched 2 plates for the first time today
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the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.tnf wrote:For gaining mass, definitely.ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.
And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....
I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.
then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
There is nothing in the sentence "I benched 2 plates" that indicates anything about weight. That's a fact and you can't change that without altering the rules of the English language.ToxicBug wrote:The number of plates refers to only one side. "benching two plates" actually means having a total of four 45lb plates on the bar.Law wrote:Your comment was ambiguous so I wen't with it, that's all. If you want to talk about what you benched then talk in terms of weight - my max bench is two 45 pound and a 10 pound plate each side (Hey I benched 6 plates!).
I was stoked the first time I could bench the 45's, as they are the biggest plates and you look tougher with them on each side of the bar.
Also, when someone just says "plate", it only refers to the 45lb plate, in any gym in North America.
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do you do any cuff exercises?+JuggerNaut+ wrote:the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.tnf wrote:For gaining mass, definitely.ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.
And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....
I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.
then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
I know some good ones if you need them.
When I was doing my heavy benching years ago I spent extra time on rotator cuff work.
My first bench max in 8th grade was something like 80 pounds.
I remember wishing I could do the 45 pound plates on each side, and what a moral victory it was when that happened.
Funny how there are those arbitrary goals simply based on the plates. I had the same goal for 100 lb dumbell presses.
Ima going to start a program that is much more focused on overall condition as opposed to just weights. One of those trendy ones that includes basic cardio, kickboxing, boxing, power yoga, swiss ball work, medicine ball work, as well as the weights. I just need to get motivated again.
I remember wishing I could do the 45 pound plates on each side, and what a moral victory it was when that happened.
Funny how there are those arbitrary goals simply based on the plates. I had the same goal for 100 lb dumbell presses.
Ima going to start a program that is much more focused on overall condition as opposed to just weights. One of those trendy ones that includes basic cardio, kickboxing, boxing, power yoga, swiss ball work, medicine ball work, as well as the weights. I just need to get motivated again.
People tend to like round numbers in base 10, probably because we have 10 fingers. 100 is round number in base 10. 100 base 8 is a round number in base 8, but is only 64 in base 10. Therefore, any number can be made look nice and round if you just use another base, therefore round numbers are meaningless. The same goes for round years (2000, who gives a shit), etc.
They are overrated, stick with basic weights and cardio!tnf wrote: Ima going to start a program that is much more focused on overall condition as opposed to just weights. One of those trendy ones that includes basic cardio, kickboxing, boxing, power yoga, swiss ball work, medicine ball work, as well as the weights. I just need to get motivated again.
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need plztnf wrote:do you do any cuff exercises?+JuggerNaut+ wrote:the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.tnf wrote: For gaining mass, definitely.
I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.
And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....
I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.
then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
I know some good ones if you need them.
When I was doing my heavy benching years ago I spent extra time on rotator cuff work.
the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?+JuggerNaut+ wrote:the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.tnf wrote:For gaining mass, definitely.ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.
And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....
I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.
then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
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i'd appreciate it if you could. i did play baseball as a kid and through most of high school, but not much beyond that.feedback wrote:the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?+JuggerNaut+ wrote:the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.tnf wrote: For gaining mass, definitely.
I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.
And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....
I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.
then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
lol sorry, looks like I don't have a copy of the paper anymore, hopefully tnf can find some for you. I asked about baseball because RC injuries are extremely common in baseball due to pitching. The pitch puts excessive strain on the RC because of the high rotational velocities (up to 7000 degrees a second in some cases), so pretty much everyone who pitches in baseball ends up with a fucked RC if they don't watch it.+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i'd appreciate it if you could. i did play baseball as a kid and through most of high school, but not much beyond that.feedback wrote:the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?+JuggerNaut+ wrote: the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
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