I've never played a strategy game, want to try one

Post by **Mat Linnett** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:01 pm

Oh, and Ground Control 1 & 2 are well worth a look too. Both incredibly pretty, and GC1 has the best artillery ever

Post by **Tsakali_** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:06 pm

holy pixelated batman I can't handle the graphix of starcraft...I know it's a noob thing to say but I can't make my eyes stop bleeding. I'm going to have to look for something a little more updated.

Post by **werldhed** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:49 pm

bitWISE wrote:Battle For Middle Earth is amazing. It kindof blurs the traditional RTS into an adventure with RPG elements. Not to mention you get to control Saromon, tree wielding cave trolls, and bulrogs.

Have you played BFME 2? I've never played the first one, but I have played #2, and wasn't too impressed. People have said the first one is better. Any truth to that?

Post by **Foo** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 4:06 pm

Housemate played it and his opinion was that the sequel fixed everything that was wrong with the original. So on the strength of his opinion, I'd say no.

Post by **werldhed** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:28 pm

Foo wrote:Housemate played it and his opinion was that the sequel fixed everything that was wrong with the original. So on the strength of his opinion, I'd say no.

I see.... I guess I'll give it another chance. It certainly looked cool, but the gameplay was meh...
Granted, I didn't really know what I was doing. :icon26:

Post by **bitWISE** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:00 pm

werldhed wrote:
bitWISE wrote:Battle For Middle Earth is amazing. It kindof blurs the traditional RTS into an adventure with RPG elements. Not to mention you get to control Saromon, tree wielding cave trolls, and bulrogs.
Have you played BFME 2? I've never played the first one, but I have played #2, and wasn't too impressed. People have said the first one is better. Any truth to that?

I thought BFME 2 was simply BFME repackaged for the 360.

Post by **Chupacabra** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:04 pm

Tsakali_ wrote:holy pixelated batman I can't handle the graphix of starcraft...I know it's a noob thing to say but I can't make my eyes stop bleeding. I'm going to have to look for something a little more updated.

think so? i thought the graphics are fine. guess i judge gameplay over graphics

anyway, nice job on atleast giving it a shot :icon14:

Post by **werldhed** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:07 pm

bitWISE wrote:
werldhed wrote:
bitWISE wrote:Battle For Middle Earth is amazing. It kindof blurs the traditional RTS into an adventure with RPG elements. Not to mention you get to control Saromon, tree wielding cave trolls, and bulrogs.
Have you played BFME 2? I've never played the first one, but I have played #2, and wasn't too impressed. People have said the first one is better. Any truth to that?
I thought BFME 2 was simply BFME repackaged for the 360.

No..... It's a new game for PC and 360. Unless we're talking about two different things?

http://www.ea.com/official/lordoftherin ... s/home.jsp

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:26 pm

corncobman wrote:Total Annihilation.

finally... someone who knows history.
starcraft is shit compared to TA.

however, there really isn't much reason to go into the bargain bin. You mind as well just get warhamer; its quite good for newbs and fans alike. It has an easy interface, almost zero resource micromanagement + guns and tanks and shit blowing up... so your ADD crave for blinky shit should be ok.

I'd recomend rise of legends; but its way more complicated... and i wouldn't steer any green-horn into that bear trap. (unless they were a history/anthropology/risk fan)

And do yourself a favor and play Fallout 2.
And Fallout.

Fallout is an RPG... and a dated one at that. You have to REALLY appreaciate the game to play it now. Fallout:Tactics is a strategy game, and a good one... however turn-based tactical combat games aren't everyone's cup of tea; so it gets a bad rap.
However, I've never understood how anyone that is a fan of the fallout universe, likes X-Com, JA2, silent storm, and that ilk of great TB strategy games could ever ever consider FO:tactics an abomination is beyond me... but it seems to be the popular opinion.

anyway, i digress... The moral... get Warhammer or C&C generals if you want to be "hardcore" about it.

Post by **DooMer** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:28 pm

BFME 2 has a lot of features, but the balance is ass.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:55 pm

Memphis wrote:Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War

Agreed.

Post by **Tsakali_** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:01 am

Chupacabra wrote:
Tsakali_ wrote:holy pixelated batman I can't handle the graphix of starcraft...I know it's a noob thing to say but I can't make my eyes stop bleeding. I'm going to have to look for something a little more updated.
think so? i thought the graphics are fine. guess i judge gameplay over graphics

anyway, nice job on atleast giving it a shot :icon14:

are we talking about the same game? it's 2D based, no 3d modeling in sight

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:10 am

If you want a great mix of RTS and RPG, Spellforce 2 is awesome:

http://www.spellforce2.com/sf2/

Otherwise, you can't go wrong with DOW. If you get the DOW Gold Edition from a place such as EB Games you get the Winter Assault expansion with it:

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646493

Plus, there is a new expansion for the game called Dark Crusade. The developer, Relic, has patches for DOW up to now, 2006, for a game that was released in 2004.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646596

Dawn of War's method makes for intense combat due to the way resources are obtained as strategic points vs. having to harvest something.

Also, Company of Heroes, an amazing looking game and by the same developer of DOW (Relic), uses similar methods in obtaining resources -- a new demo just came out:

http://www.3dgamers.com/games/companyheroes/downloads/

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?prod ... d=B646727A

Post by **Immo** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:11 am

Company of Heroes or Dawn of War.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:15 am

Get both to support Relic. They are awesome.

Post by **d3mol!t!on** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:06 am

werldhed wrote:Have you played BFME 2? I've never played the first one, but I have played #2, and wasn't too impressed. People have said the first one is better. Any truth to that?

It's down to personal preference to a fair extent, but I much prefer the first. In BFME you start off with a base at a certain location (chosen by you, or chosen by random), which is pretty neat, whereas in BFME 2 you have to place a fortress and build from there (using those pesky builder units, which don't exist in the first). Also, in BFME, you can have additional bases when you defeat the opposition (providing you haven't defeated all opposition, of course), and use expansion points located around to map to place additional structures (you have a lot of choice with those in general though, whereas in BFME 2 the expansion structures are there already with specific roles in most cases). In addition, I think the BFME teams are more balanced, I prefer the fewer special powers in skirmishes, and I prefer the fewer hero units it has in most cases too.

Post by ek » Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:41 am

TA and Homeworld