The Davinci Code

Post by **inphlict** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:57 am

I just finished watching "The Real Da Vinci Code" and it deals with the book written by Dan Brown. It basicly shows that this book and a bunch of others written about the holy grail are acctually false and are based on a hoax, also it shows how these books connected the dots incorrectly. What are your thoughts?

I think that the whole Jesus story is a myth, possibly based on a real person. And isn't their evidence that the stories from the second testament are acctually rewriten stories from the egyptians.

Post by **bork[e]** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:01 am

Soooo, The Davinci Code is a show, that talks about a book, that talks about the "Jesus" story being false?

I've seen the movie around but that it was about art or sommat? :icon19:

Post by **losCHUNK** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:03 am

my mum was on about something like this the other day (wasnt paying much attention)

is it something like jesus had children and the grail wasnt a cup it was his offspring or somming ?

Post by **bitWISE** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:06 am

Oh so the Da Vinci Code was about Jesus? Sounds like I haven't missed anything.

Post by **inphlict** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:13 am

The basic idea is that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and that the holy grail is actually the blood line of Jesus Christ, instead of a cup. (The whole cup thing is also invented according to the show) Davinci is part of some secret organization that protects this information and that he encoded this in The Last Supper. This organization is apparently still present up to today. In the Last Supper, if you look closely there is a women next to Jesus who is supposed to be Mary Magdalene. There is also a v shape between them, which means a bunch of things.

Anyway, this is more or less like a documentary that dispels many of these accusations, it basically showed that the authors made conclusions from some texts discovered in the past 60 odd years and a number of other places. But the whole idea about the Christian origins and how it all started and where these stories came from, it's quite interesting.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:24 am

yer thats wha my mum said, wouldnt mind giving it a look

should be interesting whatever they do

Post by **inphlict** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:26 am

From what I understand it's not all true, but I wouldn't be suprised if Jesus was in fact married and only after his death did the so called church make him a God.

Post by **bitWISE** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:33 am

So are they saying that there are people walking around today who are the decendant of Jesus and don't know it?

Post by **Strangler** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:33 am

Jesus was real, if he was fake there would be people that would come out and say it. A conspiracy that big and at the time in the world is just not possible. His existence was verified by many different cultures and he is important in other religions like islam and judaism.

Post by **losCHUNK** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:33 am

*looks in mirror*

Post by **inphlict** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:40 am

Strangler wrote:Jesus was real, if he was fake there would be people that would come out and say it. A conspiracy that big and at the time in the world is just not possible. His existence was verified by many different cultures and he is important in other religions like islam and judaism.

There have been many people who have claimed he was fake, but even if he was real he wasn't acctually a god or whatever. There is little evidence to prove he ever existed besides the bible, which was written after his death, revised and translated a million times. Who can you really trust? Maybe he was invented by the early church so they could control people. I don't know and you don't either.

Rational people know that Jesus was not a God! It's just a matter of showing direct evidence to prove this which is hard when your overshadowed by millions of people and some stupid book written hundreds of years ago and also the church which likes to hide any evidence that could destroy it.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:05 am

you guys ever hear of the pagan christ?

http://www.tomharpur.com/Reviews/PaganChrist.asp

this guy sent a few shockwaves - he was the religion editor for the toronto star, and all of a sudden writes this editorial about how the bible is basically all from ancient egypt.

btw i enjoyed the davinci code to an extent - bit lame in some respects, but a page turner good for the plane... i liked the feminine aspect of the book - the way it talks about how the sacred feminine has been forgotten in favour of the patriarchal system of modern religion. I think that's a valuable lesson

Post by **VoxProminence** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:58 am

i read the da Vinci Code back when everyone was making such a big deal about it, i really enjoyed the book, but took it for what it was, a story.

Post by **prince1000** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:11 am

here's a clue inphlict:

it's fiction, much like u having credit ever

Post by **prince1000** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:14 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:you guys ever hear of the pagan christ?

http://www.tomharpur.com/Reviews/PaganChrist.asp

this guy sent a few shockwaves - he was the religion editor for the toronto star, and all of a sudden writes this editorial about how the bible is basically all from ancient egypt.

btw i enjoyed the davinci code to an extent - bit lame in some respects, but a page turner good for the plane... i liked the feminine aspect of the book - the way it talks about how the sacred feminine has been forgotten in favour of the patriarchal system of modern religion. I think that's a valuable lesson

i think it's another lame post-modern cliche for suckers

Post by **Strangler** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:31 am

inphlict wrote:
Strangler wrote:Jesus was real, if he was fake there would be people that would come out and say it. A conspiracy that big and at the time in the world is just not possible. His existence was verified by many different cultures and he is important in other religions like islam and judaism.
There have been many people who have claimed he was fake, but even if he was real he wasn't acctually a god or whatever. There is little evidence to prove he ever existed besides the bible, which was written after his death, revised and translated a million times. Who can you really trust? Maybe he was invented by the early church so they could control people. I don't know and you don't either.

Rational people know that Jesus was not a God! It's just a matter of showing direct evidence to prove this which is hard when your overshadowed by millions of people and some stupid book written hundreds of years ago and also the church which likes to hide any evidence that could destroy it.

There is reference to him in many other religions like I said Islam and Judaism.

Post by **prince1000** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:34 am

joseph campbell - it's a good start for westerners

Post by **Canis** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 6:14 am

The bible is a hoax...'nuff said.

Post by **werldhed** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:28 pm

Wow... they were actually able to discredit a work of fiction? My goodness! I think I'll try airing a documentary called, "The Real Jurassic Park." That will finally dispel the myth!

Post by **inphlict** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:35 pm

First of all, the book is fiction but it claims it's all true. The author claims he belives it all also.

Also here is another post I made about religion on a different forum.

I think all religions are complete crap, we allow ourself to believe in something we have absolutely no proof off, it all about faith right? We also tangle our government & education with this religion that creates even more problems. People who claim that creationism is a theory are complete fools, it's not a theory there is no facts! No actual scientists think that creationism is really a theory so don't kid yourself. Don't use god and the bible as your defense, they are NOT facts! It's obviously all written by men just like the rest of the religious books. Thousands of years ago the Ancient Greeks, Egyptians & Mayans believed in all sorts of religions, all these religions are now regarded as myths. No one for a second believes that all actions are controlled by different gods or that there is a sun god. Why? Because we now know how to explain everyday things, we know why the sun rises and why different natural events occur like volcano eruptions. Science has at least some proof that there is no godly force controlling such things, science brings us evidence and tells us exactly how things work and how we can replicate the results.

Religion for the most part useless, people just like to belief it because they are scared of death or that they need to be cured. It's foolish to think that god will cure your disease if you pray to him. People claim that this has happened but you know what there is evidence that things like cancer can go into relapse, so don't claim god just yet.

In this day and age we don't need to belief in some deity in order to feel good about ourself. Don't you see? These foolish beliefs are destroying our progress, we can't let gays marry because of some stupid ass book written hundreds of years ago. The bible permits slavery, should we listen to that to! You cannot place your education on the bible, it will not teach you facts all you will know is fabricated stories about the earth being created in a couple of days and that by biting an apple we have damed ourself. Please, I still can't understand how people can think this is all true.

The faster we rid ourself with god the better, we must think about humanity and put aside our differences. I'm not saying we need to ban religion, people are free to believe what they want but please for the sake of yourself don't bring in religion into things like science, politics & educations.

Post by **LOL INTERNET** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:45 pm

inphlict wrote:First of all, the book is fiction but it claims it's all true. The author claims he belives it all also.

Also here is another post I made about religion on a different forum.

I think all religions are complete crap, we allow ourself to believe in something we have absolutely no proof off, it all about faith right? We also tangle our government & education with this religion that creates even more problems. People who claim that creationism is a theory are complete fools, it's not a theory there is no facts! No actual scientists think that creationism is really a theory so don't kid yourself. Don't use god and the bible as your defense, they are NOT facts! It's obviously all written by men just like the rest of the religious books. Thousands of years ago the Ancient Greeks, Egyptians & Mayans believed in all sorts of religions, all these religions are now regarded as myths. No one for a second believes that all actions are controlled by different gods or that there is a sun god. Why? Because we now know how to explain everyday things, we know why the sun rises and why different natural events occur like volcano eruptions. Science has at least some proof that there is no godly force controlling such things, science brings us evidence and tells us exactly how things work and how we can replicate the results.

Religion for the most part useless, people just like to belief it because they are scared of death or that they need to be cured. It's foolish to think that god will cure your disease if you pray to him. People claim that this has happened but you know what there is evidence that things like cancer can go into relapse, so don't claim god just yet.

In this day and age we don't need to belief in some deity in order to feel good about ourself. Don't you see? These foolish beliefs are destroying our progress, we can't let gays marry because of some stupid ass book written hundreds of years ago. The bible permits slavery, should we listen to that to! You cannot place your education on the bible, it will not teach you facts all you will know is fabricated stories about the earth being created in a couple of days and that by biting an apple we have damed ourself. Please, I still can't understand how people can think this is all true.

The faster we rid ourself with god the better, we must think about humanity and put aside our differences. I'm not saying we need to ban religion, people are free to believe what they want but please for the sake of yourself don't bring in religion into things like science, politics & educations.

MURRRRRR

Post by **Grudge** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:48 pm

yea, that about sums it up

Post by **werldhed** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:00 pm

inphlict wrote:First of all, the book is fiction but it claims it's all true. The author claims he belives it all also.
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Well, it depends on what parts of the book the documentary was trying to discredit. Dan Brown might believe that there is a conspiracy behind it, but he has said himself that the book is a work of fiction and is not true, it's only meant to open for debate the topic of religion and belief.
However, the artwork and writings referred to in the book do exist, so that part of it is real. Whether the pyramid in the Louvre is hiding something is less likely. He just took some wild theories and ran with them so he could make a thriller.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:00 pm

On Penn and Teller's Bullshit show, they did an episode on the bible. That's where, if I recall, Michael Shermer claimed that the current story of Jesus resembled that of Apollonius and that his life story may have been recast with Jesus.

Post by **Grudge** » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:38 pm

Of course Dan Brown claims it's all true. Would you write a book and then go and say "Nah, it's all bullshit" and expect it to sell good?

Of course not, Brown is smart, he knows what sells.