Remember the Popular Mechanics article on 9/11?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:35 pm

Freakaloin wrote:engineers all over the world call bullshit on the official story...

post 5 names

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:41 pm

i'm not ur researcher...but its out there...

Post by **Transient** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:41 pm

*waits*

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:42 pm

zzzzz i seem to recall german engineers writing a bs piece about it...do a google search...

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:43 pm

stop asking us to do your research

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:43 pm

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/01 ... -0112.html

Whose cousin is this guy?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:44 pm

Freakaloin wrote:i'm not ur researcher...but its out there...

Yes it's obvious you aren't a researcher. That's why you constantly buy all this bullshit.

edit: and it's not asking you to do my research, it's asking you to back up your own claims (which you can't do)

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:48 pm

i always back up my claims...i have linked this shit before...i really don't want to look for it now when i'm dealing with 2 kids...

buying the official bullshit is whats dumb...which i used to...cuz i was a moron...

Post by **R00k** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:48 pm

Nightshade wrote:
R00k wrote:Which Alex Jones column are you talking about?
The one about Chertoff's cousin.

Oh, and Geoof is an idiot.

Oh, I didn't see that one....

Post by **Transient** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:48 pm

Freakaloin wrote:...do a google search...

The burden of truth lies on your shoulders, since you're the one making the claim.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:50 pm

i have no burden..i don't give a shit what u think and i am just speaking my mind...i'm not reporter jackass...rofl...

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:52 pm

just never expect anyone to take you seriously

Post by **Transient** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:52 pm

I don't give a shit either, so I'm going to reply to a bunch of your posts over and over, and inevitably come back to this thread to make some sort of snide remark toward you.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:53 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:just never expect anyone to take you seriously

lol...u dumbass...

Post by **Transient** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:54 pm

ZING!

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:59 pm

Freakaloin wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:just never expect anyone to take you seriously
lol...u dumbass...

well yes, i know you're trolling, you admitted it to me a few weeks ago but I'm still going to try and keep the record straight on things around here including pointing out you're full of shit. reason: there are many inconclusive things about what happened on 9/11 and why, and muddying up the issues with bullshit and irrelevancies keeps everyone's focus from stuff that's actually important. i.e. all the warnings and the lack of accountability etc.

why don't you move on to aliens and ghosts and I'll leave you alone.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:11 pm

the official story is the conspiracy theory...

and i still haven't seen any proof laden had anything to do with it...

let me edit this...NO ONE has seen any evidence prooving laden was involved in 911...weird eh?

Post by **R00k** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:13 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:I'd like to point out that just because this guy is Chetoff's cousin, it doesn't make the report invalid.

No, I definitely agree. But it's the method of the article that stinks.

They basically line up a bunch of radical theories that no intelligent people support to begin with, and label them the "9/11 truth movement's supposed proof," or whatever, and knock them down like dominoes, and thereby say that the official story must be true, simply because they can knock down these ridiculous straw-man theories.

They don't go any further in actually proving the 9/11 commission report, only attack theories that are easy to debunk so they can call it all a huge radical movement of nutjobs trying to grasp at straws.

Still, no one has come forward and answered a single question about any of the serious flaws in the 9/11 Commission's official report. The most obvious one being; the Commission had to change the FAA and NORAD's timelines in the final report, saying they were wrong, and just sort of "met in the middle" on the time things really happened. But if there is a 40 minute or so gap that their testimony does not account for, why are they not even questioned about it?

That is one of the reasons I keep saying it is not a real investigation. They listened to everybody's testimony, and then just basically made up their own story about what happened, kinda meeting in the middle on conflicting times, and wrote the whole thing off.

Well, if NORAD took nearly an hour to respond, even AFTER it was determined, in the official report, that they knew about the hijackings, then why were no questions ever asked about why they stood down that whole time?

If people would even bother to read the Commission's official report, they would realize that it does not answer any questions that it raises, but just attempts to chronicle the events of that day - and fairly unsuccessfully at that.

Why do people keep calling it an investigation? It's a committee of politicians hammering out their story and making sure the culpable people are all on the same page -- right there on official government paper.

Read it yourself - go over it with a fine toothed comb. It's all hot air, and contains almost nothing that is substantial about the facts of that day, except some very incriminating evidence that some people very definitely fucked up, and still aren't being held accountable. It doesn't even really make a serious attempt to determine who those people are.

Post by **Transient** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:20 pm

Freakaloin wrote:and i still haven't seen any proof laden had anything to do with it...

let me edit this...NO ONE has seen any evidence prooving laden was involved in 911...weird eh?

Except for the fact that he openly admitted to it. 'Admit' is the wrong word, since it implies shame, and he's proud of it.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:22 pm

Ahh I think I confused the NOVA dealie with the Pop Mechanics article which I don't believe I've read.

As for the 9/11 commission and their report, I totally agree with you. A farce.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:29 pm

Transient wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:and i still haven't seen any proof laden had anything to do with it...

let me edit this...NO ONE has seen any evidence prooving laden was involved in 911...weird eh?
Except for the fact that he openly admitted to it. 'Admit' is the wrong word, since it implies shame, and he's proud of it.

when did he openly admit to it? u mean that video they found in afghanistan? the one that was proven fake?

this one? http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osamatape

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:46 pm

Try the one he released right before the 2004 elections, mongy.
It's funny watching you try to defend your stupid claims, because you're clearly about as smart as a banana. Hell, you're so fucking thick you can't even make me believe that Bush is full of shit. AND I ALREADY THINK THAT.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:56 pm

lol..yeah that nicely timed osama vid...the one where his ideology has completely changed and he talks about red and blue states?...lol...thats fake as well nitwit...funny how the 3 fake osama videos or so are either multiple videos clipped together or osama has done a complete 180 in his ideaology and demands...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:01 pm

i mean u do know right moron...that besides those 2 videos osama has always said they are against killing women and children and only want the us out of the middle east? and when he declared a fatwa is was only a defensive fatwa...u knew that right?

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:04 pm

Of course it's fake, Geoof. Of course, you can't substantiate that, or ANY of your arguments, but hey, let's not split hairs.