Teacher forces student to stand during national anthem

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:39 pm

Or at least he tries to. Student refuses and teacher pulls out chair from underneath student. All caught on film by another student.

Vid and complaint:
http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/displ ... /index.php

Some discussion:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/03 ... stic.shtml

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:41 pm

2 week old news...but the teacher was right...the students were being cocksuckers...had nothing to do with the anthem...

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:42 pm

Teach might be a nationalistic asshole, but the kids are fucking punks, too.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... 070/NEWS02

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:46 pm

One thing doesn't have to do anything with the other.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:48 pm

The kids may have been punks, but they should be sent out of class or to the principal's office rather than forced to stand and sing the national anthem.

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:51 pm

....what's the national anthem doing in schools anyway?

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:55 pm

Who knows. In Canada students are encouraged to sing their national anthem at assembly, but not daily in class. I think it's silly either way.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:55 pm

Well, how else would you indoctrinate them?

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:59 pm

its not about the anthem...its about them disrepecting and trying to make the teacher go ballistic...they were agitating him...i would have made them read neocon speeches in front of the class...

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:12 pm

So the kids may have treated him badly. So what? He should respond with warnings and if they continue, they get the boot out of class or sent to the principal's office or have their parents notified, etc. You don't pull out a chair from under a student.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:13 pm

Fender, are you a regular reader of Reason online?

Post by **mik0rs** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:13 pm

The teacher's a fucking moron, Jesus Christ, he must stand up at home for the national anthem too, fucking lunatic.

The kids seemed like pricks too but surely it's their right not to stand up if they don't want to.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:18 pm

obviuos a bunch of child minds round here...

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:19 pm

it's that "obviuos"?

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:20 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:Fender, are you a regular reader of Reason online?

Not so much as I used to be. I do have a buddy @ work that sends me the better links and I read those. Once in a while I'll go there on my own, but not too often anymore.

My old sig for a while was this:
http://fender.net/sig.html
With links to

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:22 pm

I enjoy reading Reason once in a while, as well.

For instance browsing now, I see this article:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/03 ... tml#008709

Post by **Strangler** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:47 pm

how could the teacher force them?

Post by **rep** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:55 pm

Future stroke victim.

Every American has a liberty to do whatever they please as long as it is within the law. You can do everything short of burning a flag, if you so desire to.

Of course, present dissent should not punish the real Americans of generations past. Just because you hate the Bush regime doesn't mean you shouldn't be patriotic.

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:56 pm

I do believe I can still burn the flag, if I so choose. That constitutional amendment didn't pass, IIRC.

Post by **Strangler** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:58 pm

why cant you burn a flag? How is that against the constitution?

Post by **Fender** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:59 pm

There was an attempt to ammend the constitution so that burning the flag would be illegal. It failed to pass, I believe.

Post by **Suave** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:01 pm

The US national anthem sounds so whiney.

NEE NEE NEE, NEE NEE, NEEEEEEEEEE... NEE NEE NEE, NEE NEE, NEEEEEEEE... Gets on my tits almost as much as the French anthem.

P.S. Those kids were just that, kids. 'Childish cunts', though something I would have done at their age (wind a teacher up).

Post by **rep** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:06 pm

Interesting point, Fender. I wonder if my believing flag burning to be illegal is a subconscious esult of the spin machine?

I'll have to research it, although burning a flag is counter productive, unless it's a flag purchased edit: stolen from Wal-Mart, which are for the majority made in China. Amazing, isn't it?

Post by **4days** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:07 pm

that guy didn't have control of the classroom.

the kids look like a bunch of spoilt little assholes (but i'm over 25, so i'm bound to think that).

spoilt or not, if you don't have the ability to control a group of kids without resorting to shouting, threats and minor physical attacks then maybe you shouldn't be teaching.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:26 pm

Strangler wrote:how could the teacher force them?

cuz hes the teacher...don't like his rules ur out of there...well thats the way it is around here and anyone who thinks differently is either a kid or doesn't have kids...