rise of the police state...a must see...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:50 pm

there are about 2700 members of the bohemain club...heres a few...

# George HW Bush
# Dick Cheney
# Dwight D. Eisenhower
# Malcolm Forbes
# Gerald Ford
# Newt Gingrich
# Alan Greenspan
# Alexander Haig
# Herbert Hoover
# Jack Kemp
# Henry Kissinger
# Richard M. Nixon, who had his own opinions of the Grove (see timeline!)
# Colin Powell
# Ronald Reagan
# George Schultz
# Caspar Weinberger
# Art Linkletter
# William Randolph Hearst, Jr.
# Charles Scripps, of the Scripps-Howard newspaper chain
# Jack Howard, also of Scripps-Howard
# David M. Kennedy, history professor from Stanford Univeristy
# Nathan Myhrvold, Former Chief Technology Officer, Microsoft.
# Seth Shustak, astronomer, SETI Institute
# Jesse H. Choper, law clerk to Chief Justice Earl Warren
# John Major, former Prime Minister of U.K.
# John Keegan, military historian
# William Davidow, author & "Venture Capitalist"
# James R. Lilley, former ambassador to China and Korea
# John M. Barry, writer & scholar
# William Casey, former CIA director
# John Lehman, former Navy Secretary (delivered speech that claimed 200,000 Iraqis were killed in first Gulf War)
# Tom Johnson, president of CNN and former publisher of the Los Angeles Times
# David Gergen (although he is reportedly no longer an attendee)
# A.W. Clausen of the World Bank

Post by **Pext** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:28 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:odd, thanks for the link Pext

i googled a bit:

The Cold War's over, John. But with no clear enemy to stock pile against, the arms market's flat. But bring down a fully-loaded 727 into the middle of New York City; you'll find a dozen tin-pot dictators all over the world, just clamoring to take responsibility. And begging to be smart bombed.

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:48 pm

OK, I just watched all three files, and that's some scary shit.

Post by **Mogul** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:36 am

I just finished them all.

Some of the stuff in there totally doesn't need to be included, and is just him wasting time with non-critical opinions.

BUT

As you all know, there's also some seriously scary stuff in there (a good deal of it is very important).

So, what can be done about it, assuming the hardcore stuff in the video is true?

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:57 am

Mogul...I think we need to get this video onto something like BBC, TLC, Discovery Channel, History Channel, or even big networks like ABC/NBC/CBS. Considering some of the extremely radical views expressed it might be a hard pitch but I think more people need to see it somehow.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:17 am

lol...good luck...

Post by **Mogul** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:22 am

Well, it is possible.

Blogging is more popular than ever these days, especially in political topics. The video could be pimped by the controversial and extremely popular bloggers (of which I know none, but they do exist).

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:29 pm

nah..i think the problem with the film is when alex goes on tirades on the street...that shit would make ppl run in fear...

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:38 pm

bitWISE wrote:
Transient wrote:Hahaha, I just chatted with my father about some of the stuff in this video and his expression was gold. He's a hardcore republican, and said "that's bullshit and fake". I gotta get him to watch this. :lol:
I would suggest completely skipping the first part and go straight to the second. The first part contains too much shit about the facist police state and makes the guy look like teh uber tin-foil hat wearer. Very bad directing IMO. You can't make outlandish claims right off the bat. You have to lead people to conclude on their own that it is becoming a facist police state and THEN you can hit them with hit. Rubbing it in their face right off the bat is just going to make everyone that you actually need to reach shift their attention.

Nail on the head, sir.
He has some very scary and important things to tell, but they way he chooses to share them with his audience is just …bad.

Also, Nightshade, did you see part two? I was wondering what you think about his take on 9/11… He never goes into serious technical detail yet still manages to raise some serious doubt about the collapse.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:40 pm

anyone who doesn't think the govt was not complicit in 911 is beyond retarded and should be shot...any questions?

Post by **bitWISE** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:53 pm

Ryoki wrote:
bitWISE wrote:
Transient wrote:Hahaha, I just chatted with my father about some of the stuff in this video and his expression was gold. He's a hardcore republican, and said "that's bullshit and fake". I gotta get him to watch this. :lol:
I would suggest completely skipping the first part and go straight to the second. The first part contains too much shit about the facist police state and makes the guy look like teh uber tin-foil hat wearer. Very bad directing IMO. You can't make outlandish claims right off the bat. You have to lead people to conclude on their own that it is becoming a facist police state and THEN you can hit them with hit. Rubbing it in their face right off the bat is just going to make everyone that you actually need to reach shift their attention.
Nail on the head, sir.
He has some very scary and important things to tell, but they way he chooses to share them with his audience is just …bad.

Also, Nightshade, did you see part two? I was wondering what you think about his take on 9/11… He never goes into serious technical detail yet still manages to raise some serious doubt about the collapse.

The way he kept going on about the "crinkle" (or whatever term he used to describe the destruction of the center column) I expected to see a clip of the towers with a "crinkle" down the middle...but I didn't. I haven't gone back to replay the movies and see for myself though.